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15 November 2016, 00:05
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It depends why people claim that, I understood it was an issue with the load now being considered part of the trailer and thus for many ribs exceeding the width limits (without the permitted load overhang).
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Is that not why ribs come in 3 beam "flavours"?
2m to get through a standard garage door
2.3m to stay "road legal" without deflation
2.6m I believe will deflate and if you strap the toobs in is around the 2.3m beam mark. (seen a few Pacs on the back of artics (lorries, not the other flavour of rib!) on the A90 like that)
>2.6m it's a police escort & a ton of paperwork
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19 November 2016, 20:00
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Originally Posted by 9D280
Is that not why ribs come in 3 beam "flavours"?
2m to get through a standard garage door
2.3m to stay "road legal" without deflation
2.6m I believe will deflate and if you strap the toobs in is around the 2.3m beam mark. (seen a few Pacs on the back of artics (lorries, not the other flavour of rib!) on the A90 like that)
>2.6m it's a police escort & a ton of paperwork
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Yes, although the rules have changed:
Trailer allowed up to 2.55m and 0.305m side overhang permitted, provided not over 2.9m in total.
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05 March 2017, 20:23
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Got tired of replacing my trailer mounted one's, so made a rig out of schedule 80 PVC pipe I had lying around.
Quick to slide on and off my guide- ons and a lot more confident that they will work consistently !
A couple of glued joints and foam insulation (across the engine ) and good to go !
cheers Dal
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05 March 2017, 20:32
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Originally Posted by limeydal
Got tired of replacing my trailer mounted one's, so made a rig out of schedule 80 PVC pipe I had lying around.
Quick to slide on and off my guide- ons and a lot more confident that they will work consistently !
A couple of glued joints and foam insulation (across the engine ) and good to go !
cheers Dal
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Bit like a Trailer Board then .....
Just Homemade, bigger,not as robust ,and harder to store
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06 March 2017, 00:22
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Yes, that's why I posted on "Trailer board thread "
Sorry, didn't know it had to be on a board !
Used stuff I already had around and does the job !
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06 March 2017, 00:29
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Bit like a Trailer Board then .....
Just Homemade, bigger,not as robust ,and harder to store
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Actually I thought it was not bad. Compared to many trailer boards I see literally flapping round this looked like a good way of attaching - surprisingly not all trailers actually come with a robust way of adding an easily removable board! Storage is only really an issue whilst launching as it can live on the trailer the rest of the time. But I suspect it may fall foul of the UK height requirements for lights.
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06 March 2017, 06:39
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and what are the uk requirement for height of lights I hang my trailer board off the a frame I know its not technically attached to the trailer but I have had bobbies behind me and never had them stop me
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06 March 2017, 09:05
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Originally Posted by Poly
Actually I thought it was not bad. Compared to many trailer boards I see literally flapping round this looked like a good way of attaching - surprisingly not all trailers actually come with a robust way of adding an easily removable board! Storage is only really an issue whilst launching as it can live on the trailer the rest of the time. But I suspect it may fall foul of the UK height requirements for lights.
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With BRAND NEW pretty decently made legally compliant L.E.D Trailer boards available for well under £25!!...I really think time is better spent in other directions....if you've not the Wit to fit one securely and legally you ARE in trouble!....
and as for "Flapping" certainly seems to me most On line Forums wouldn't last long without pandering to it!
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06 March 2017, 09:20
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Originally Posted by beerbelly
and what are the uk requirement for height of lights I hang my trailer board off the a frame I know its not technically attached to the trailer but I have had bobbies behind me and never had them stop me
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I've been towing Cars Boats Trailers Box Trailers and Plant for Decades been stopped just twice (once light was out)...lights/load/tyres checked and and sent on my way.
All good!
You can stress and obsess about the minutiae of legislation (which is changing continually) or use common sense do your best,maintain your RIG and get on with things...in this case Boating!!
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06 March 2017, 09:41
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I've been towing Cars Boats Trailers Box Trailers and Plant for Decades been stopped just twice (once light was out)...lights/load/tyres checked and and sent on my way.
All good!
You can stress and obsess about the minutiae of legislation (which is changing continually) or use common sense do your best,maintain your RIG and get on with things...in this case Boating!!
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[emoji106]Likewise. I used to hang the trailer board off the "A" frame on the first boat, never got stopped, but that was 20 odd years ago, plod/VOSA might be keener now. I once towed a trailer all the way from Aberdeen to Yorkshire without lights & got stopped about 5 miles from home, got a slapped wrist & sent on my way. I'm a big believer in "if it looks right, it is right". You can have a legal POS, or a technically illegal setup that works, I'd go for the latter every time.
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06 March 2017, 15:49
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[quote = Beerbelly]and what are the uk requirement for height of lights [/quote] light board should be no more than 1m off the ground officially...
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Originally Posted by Maximus
You can stress and obsess about the minutiae of legislation (which is changing continually) or use common sense do your best,
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the rules on trailer lights haven't changed in quite some time - so doing your best, is probably following them ;-)
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Originally Posted by Maximus
...if you've not the Wit to fit one securely and legally you ARE in trouble!...
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I take a flapping trailer board as a useful warning that they probably didn't spend too much time checking the trailer hitch either!
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
[emoji106] I used to hang the trailer board off the "A" frame on the first boat, never got stopped, but that was 20 odd years ago, plod/VOSA might be keener now.
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probably less likely to actually get stopped now, but more likely if you do they have the rule book in front of them and will be willing to enforce it!
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I'm a big believer in "if it looks right, it is right". You can have a legal POS, or a technically illegal setup that works, I'd go for the latter every time.
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I think if it looks right its likely to get stopped, that doesn't mean it is right though - and there is a third option being both legal and effective.
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06 March 2017, 16:32
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I think if it looks right its likely to get stopped, that doesn't mean it is right though - and there is a third option being both legal and effective.
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Did you mean "un-likely"?
I agree that effective & legal is by far the best option, but with boat/trailer combos, legal isn't always the most effective. The main issue (imo naturally[emoji6]) is the height, by nature most (boat) trailer boards tend to be close to the ground & potentially obscured by outboards, straps etc. Also for a driver following a boat, there's a lot going on in terms of colour & shape to distract him from the lights, unlike a boring standard trailer.
Just my 2 penneth
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06 March 2017, 17:12
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I think your problem would arise if, some day-dreaming clown, ran into the back of you and then, having been so rudely awoken, recognised that the lighting on your boat wasn't lawful.
That could make for some interesting bartering between the insurance company and you might find that you end up coping for the lot
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06 March 2017, 17:26
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Did you mean "un-likely"?
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Aye. oops. Day job getting in the way again!
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06 March 2017, 17:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
With BRAND NEW pretty decently made legally compliant L.E.D Trailer boards available for well under £25!!...I really think time is better spent in other directions....if you've not the Wit to fit one securely and legally you ARE in trouble!....
and as for "Flapping" certainly seems to me most On line Forums wouldn't last long without pandering to it!
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Which is pretty irrelevant considering the op is in the USA where trailer mounted lights are the norm and boards suitable for local regs are maybe not so readily available
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06 March 2017, 18:49
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Originally Posted by Poly
[quote = Beerbelly]and what are the uk requirement for height of lights
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light board should be no more than 1m off the ground officially...
the rules on trailer lights haven't changed in quite some time - so doing your best, is probably following them ;-)
I take a flapping trailer board as a useful warning that they probably didn't spend too much time checking the trailer hitch either!
probably less likely to actually get stopped now, but more likely if you do they have the rule book in front of them and will be willing to enforce it!
I think if it looks right its likely to get stopped, that doesn't mean it is right though - and there is a third option being both legal and effective.[/QUOTE]
Basically you worry too much young Poly (have too much time on your hands) me ol China
Always like the Legal...and just Love the effective!
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06 March 2017, 18:52
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Originally Posted by beamishken
Which is pretty irrelevant considering the op is in the USA where trailer mounted lights are the norm and boards suitable for local regs are maybe not so readily available
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Maybe...then again
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08 March 2017, 07:33
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does any one try lalizas trailer led light?
my question is are they really waterproof ?
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08 March 2017, 10:48
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go for led automotive they have a lifetime guarantee and are submersible to 1m
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08 March 2017, 11:48
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does any one try lalizas trailer led light?
my question is are they really waterproof?
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Dear northstar, the current model is IP65 Waterproof. After May we will introduce the new series which will be IP67 Watertight.
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