Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 29 October 2018, 14:06   #61
Member
 
Maximus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
Send a message via AIM to Maximus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xk59D View Post
It might be about lights and number plates if a van decides your engine and transom look better in their grill than what is left of your boat.
IF ...& ...MIGHT (just missing the "maybe")....oft said to be the last refuge of those ...without a valid point to make

I have Towed the length and breadth of this Great Island...for many years..Transporters Plant..and Boats
Legal & Safe has always been my priority!....but hey,if you want to stress and analise and Navel gaze about (IF or MIGHT) your number plate is 2" the "wrong" side ...that's You're choice.
My point ...Its Just bloody Boring
__________________
A clever Man learns by his mistakes..
A Wise Man learns by other people's!

The Road to HELL ..is Paved with "Good inventions!"
Maximus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2018, 15:42   #62
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini + XS
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140/merc 60
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,300
found it on the rya guidelines under registration marks
https://www.rya.org.uk/sitecollectio...EGULATIONS.pdf
__________________
Orwell boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2018, 17:19   #63
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,934
Nicely found sir, that isn't where I seen it though but the RYA probably got it from where I did, which was probably the DVLA site as I've been looking at the regs when making these bloody waterproof lights.
__________________
Xk59D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2018, 18:10   #64
Member
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
IF ...
I have Towed the length and breadth of this Great Island...

And there’s the rub, whilst ever you’re on your home turf you’re relatively safe. It’s not until you venture out of your comfort zone, & head south of Dover, that you realise how easy we have it here. We are without doubt one of, if not the, least regulated countrie(s) in Europe when it comes to boats & trailers. Foreign plod needs little excuse to extract some weekend beer money out of naive tourists.
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4:Don't feed the troll
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2018, 19:51   #65
Member
 
Maximus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
Send a message via AIM to Maximus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave View Post
And there’s the rub, whilst ever you’re on your home turf you’re relatively safe. It’s not until you venture out of your comfort zone, & head south of Dover, that you realise how easy we have it here. We are without doubt one of, if not the, least regulated countrie(s) in Europe when it comes to boats & trailers. Foreign plod needs little excuse to extract some weekend beer money out of naive tourists.
Yet Another good reason to stay in the UK then Dave!....and to extricate ourselves from VERY likely future over regulation! ..
I hear what you're saying but A safe trailer in the UK is still Safe Trailer on the Continent IMO.....even if you do have to modify things?? to placate the foreign powers that be...and conform to their regs. After all Is it really so different..

....Having said that I think the Euro police would spend their time much more productively by scrutinising some of their HGV "Sheds" I've seen over here!

Being an Island Race we seem to have a different attitude to the Sea than our European friends...and the ancient freedoms to persue the many pursuits we ALL cherish.....long may it continue!

When I go to (Coastal) France again...I certainly won't be going via Dover......It will be in my RIB via the South Coast ....as before
__________________
A clever Man learns by his mistakes..
A Wise Man learns by other people's!

The Road to HELL ..is Paved with "Good inventions!"
Maximus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2018, 19:59   #66
Member
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
Yet Another good reason to stay in the UK then Dave!....


Ohh I dunno! Travel broadens the mind[emoji6]
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4:Don't feed the troll
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2018, 20:01   #67
Member
 
Maximus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
Send a message via AIM to Maximus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave View Post
Ohh I dunno! Travel broadens the mind[emoji6]
....100%
..But Towing!???
__________________
A clever Man learns by his mistakes..
A Wise Man learns by other people's!

The Road to HELL ..is Paved with "Good inventions!"
Maximus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2018, 20:18   #68
Member
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
RIBase
Trailer lighting cable

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
....100%
..But Towing!???


No pain no gain. [emoji6]
I don’t mind it tbh, but then I’m geared up for it. It’s not until you venture abroad that you realise how easy we have it here. People who are always calling for “compulsory this” & “obligatory that” should be careful what they wish for. Maybe the ease of boating & lack of regulation accounts for our thriving RIB scene.
Anyway, we’re wandering waaay off topic.
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4:Don't feed the troll
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2018, 22:10   #69
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,632
Max, I’ve reminded myself how easy the ban button works on here... I’m sure you are not making any political points though so my refreshed skills will not be needed will they?
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2018, 00:16   #70
Member
 
Maximus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
Send a message via AIM to Maximus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly View Post
Max, I’ve reminded myself how easy the ban button works on here... I’m sure you are not making any political points though so my refreshed skills will not be needed will they?
Don't worry Poly!...NO "Polytics" from me ...just honest points of view and opinions for balance

I know that itchy Finger is poised Locked & Loaded
__________________
A clever Man learns by his mistakes..
A Wise Man learns by other people's!

The Road to HELL ..is Paved with "Good inventions!"
Maximus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2018, 00:35   #71
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini + XS
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140/merc 60
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,300
i think that all our uk used knott and alko hitches ,axels ,braking system etc are all tuv tested in germany anyway ,combine that with european marked light clusters and tyres with the desired carrying capacity,take your paperwork (manufacturer suplied ) to your iva test centre with your trailer which has been put together in line with the notes and thats it ,you cant really fail ,theoretically even if the runners are made of fencing stakes lashed together with string there isnt any guidelines about that !
i think the real purpose of iva is to generate a registration mark for the trailer and subsequently an annual test but until such times i see no reason why driving abroad in EU needs nothing more than driving a post 2011 trailer in the uk
__________________
Orwell boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2018, 19:45   #72
Member
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orwell boy View Post
i think that all our uk used knott and alko hitches ,axels ,braking system etc are all tuv tested in germany anyway ,combine that with european marked light clusters and tyres with the desired carrying capacity,take your paperwork (manufacturer suplied ) to your iva test centre with your trailer which has been put together in line with the notes and thats it ,you cant really fail ,theoretically even if the runners are made of fencing stakes lashed together with string there isnt any guidelines about that !
i think the real purpose of iva is to generate a registration mark for the trailer and subsequently an annual test but until such times i see no reason why driving abroad in EU needs nothing more than driving a post 2011 trailer in the uk


I’ve read that a couple of times, & I’m genuinely still not sure what it says.
Re towing abroad, if your trailer is UK legal & being towed by a UK registered vehicle, then you are ok regardless of age.
Re. The construction, since 2014 all UK built trailers have to comply with the eu directive, hence the appearance of fixed lights & side markers.
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4:Don't feed the troll
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2018, 22:31   #73
Member
 
mick's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,177
Seem as my trailer is made in Holland I reckon I’m ok for towing in Europe [emoji16]
And the waterproof lights have been a bonus recovering in the dark on Loch Lomond
__________________
mick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 October 2018, 12:01   #74
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini + XS
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140/merc 60
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,300
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave View Post
I’ve read that a couple of times, & I’m genuinely still not sure what it says.
Re towing abroad, if your trailer is UK legal & being towed by a UK registered vehicle, then you are ok regardless of age.
Re. The construction, since 2014 all UK built trailers have to comply with the eu directive, hence the appearance of fixed lights & side markers.
yes sorry i do tend to ramble on ,however i was only saying same as you
no problems should be incurred in europe if everthing bought in uk as knott alko bpw all german made and tuv tested anyway ,if you fit chinese non ce lights you will be held up
__________________
Orwell boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 October 2018, 12:02   #75
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini + XS
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140/merc 60
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,300
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave View Post
I’ve read that a couple of times, & I’m genuinely still not sure what it says.
Re towing abroad, if your trailer is UK legal & being towed by a UK registered vehicle, then you are ok regardless of age.
Re. The construction, since 2014 all UK built trailers have to comply with the eu directive, hence the appearance of fixed lights & side markers.
yes sorry i do tend to ramble on ,however i was only saying same as you
no problems should be incurred in europe if everthing bought in uk as knott alko bpw all german made and tuv tested anyway ,if you fit chinese non ce lights you will be held up
__________________
Orwell boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 October 2018, 12:09   #76
Member
 
Bern Hanreck's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Norfolk/Suffolk Borders
Make: no boat
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 885
yes sorry i do tend to ramble on ,

& repeat myself
__________________
Bern Hanreck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 October 2018, 18:11   #77
Member
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orwell boy View Post
yes sorry i do tend to ramble on ,however i was only saying same as you

no problems should be incurred in europe if everthing bought in uk as knott alko bpw all german made and tuv tested anyway ,if you fit chinese non ce lights you will be held up


Here you go, an early Christmas pressie. Keep ‘em safe they might come in handy[emoji6]
:,,.....!!!,;;;:::’””””’.......,,,,,;;;;:::????!!!
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4:Don't feed the troll
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 November 2018, 18:21   #78
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,934
Lights are ready now, just need the new poles galvanised and I'm good.

Looks good and may save 5 mins launching and recovering .....not worth the hassle or money though, get an led trailer board.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20181103_161731.jpg
Views:	149
Size:	66.6 KB
ID:	127534  
__________________
Xk59D is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 01:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.