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22 June 2007, 15:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Kaybe
Make: Ribtec
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha Wake Sport 50
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Trailer Security
I've just thought that if i'm out on the ocean waves, the car and the trailer are in a carpark wherever this maybe - what's the best for security so they're there when i get back?? I was looking at the SAS Products?
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22 June 2007, 15:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nr Tring
Boat name: Braveheart
Make: Porters Renegade
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Engine: Tohatsu 140
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Originally Posted by Gavin F
I've just thought that if i'm out on the ocean waves, the car and the trailer are in a carpark wherever this maybe - what's the best for security so they're there when i get back?? I was looking at the SAS Products?
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Many insurance companies specify that you must have a wheelclamp and a hitchlock as a minimum to ensure that you are insured. We went for the following from Marinescene.co.uk:-
UP-109145 - Fullstop Centurion Universal Wheel Clamp x 1 - £64.99
109170 - Full Stop Saracen Hitch Lock - £45.99
The advantage with the wheel clamp is that if you decide to fit bearing savers to your trailer in the future, you can expand the size of the wheelclamp to take this into account.
Check your insurance details first and then comply.
Remember that some boatyards charge for parking for the trailer and the car separately. One mate got a parking ticket for the trailer even though they had paid for parking on the car (Bosham shame on you!).
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22 June 2007, 16:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 70
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Yes sas products are good, funny the boat that i have recently bought is around 10 years old but the trailer is only 18 months old because they had the original one nicked while they were out on the water, must be a real gutter to come back from a good day out on the ocean to find the trailer gone
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22 June 2007, 16:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Kaybe
Make: Ribtec
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha Wake Sport 50
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarah G
Many insurance companies specify that you must have a wheelclamp and a hitchlock as a minimum to ensure that you are insured. We went for the following from Marinescene.co.uk:-
UP-109145 - Fullstop Centurion Universal Wheel Clamp x 1 - £64.99
109170 - Full Stop Saracen Hitch Lock - £45.99
The advantage with the wheel clamp is that if you decide to fit bearing savers to your trailer in the future, you can expand the size of the wheelclamp to take this into account.
Check your insurance details first and then comply.
Remember that some boatyards charge for parking for the trailer and the car separately. One mate got a parking ticket for the trailer even though they had paid for parking on the car (Bosham shame on you!).
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Interesting; http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/product...itchlocks.html - value for money I think you win!
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22 June 2007, 16:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester/Clevedon
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If you're able to fit locking wheel nuts (about £14) to your trailer wheels, than I think the SAS Bulldog wheel clamp (roughly £70) is the most user friendly one to use.
Light and small, it clamps through the wheel as opposed to around it. Really quick and easy to put on as well.
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22 June 2007, 16:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Kaybe
Make: Ribtec
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Engine: Yamaha Wake Sport 50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GuyP
If you're able to fit locking wheel nuts (about £14) to your trailer wheels, than I think the SAS Bulldog wheel clamp (roughly £70) is the most user friendly one to use.
Light and small, it clamps through the wheel as opposed to around it. Really quick and easy to put on as well.
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Guy, thanks for this. I've got a wheel clamp at the mo but it's one with a pad lock on so anyone can have a go on that if they've got the right tools i guess. Just dont want my trailer becoming someone else's!
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22 June 2007, 17:58
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
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I use a dirty great motorbike locking chain around a lamp post or tree etc. Yes an angle grinder will cut through it but hopefully that will draw a bit of attention!!!
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22 June 2007, 18:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Kaybe
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Engine: Yamaha Wake Sport 50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
I use a dirty great motorbike locking chain around a lamp post or tree etc. Yes an angle grinder will cut through it but hopefully that will draw a bit of attention!!!
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Like it! Might do that....best get looking for a dirty great big motorbike chain then hadn't i...
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22 June 2007, 19:28
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
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I can hey an SAS clamp off in about twenty seconds without the key and I'm not eben from Portsmouth
http://www.western-towing.co.uk/acat...el_Clamps.html
I allso don;t think that SAS make the Bulldog clamp That's much better takes at least two minutes and needs 4*4
Alos keep you old padlock clamp and use that as well
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22 June 2007, 19:57
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Member
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yes I use a large motorbike chain & lock & secure my trailor to a tree when I am out on the boat. Must be a real hassle coming back & finding some lowlife scumbag has helped himself to it.
In fact I was so concerned at paying distress daily marina fees after a theft I am getting a local trailor manufacturer to make me a copy of my Bramber Rollercoaster, it´s only 800 GBP new (the copy that is), so I plan to use this if I am overnighting & having to leave a trailor by the slip. Always good to have a spare one too in case of breakdown.
Also, security wise I plan to paint it so it stands out more.
Hope it helps, apologies if you are reading this anyone at Bramber but the design was too good not to copy - imitation being the sincerest form of flattery!
Cheers
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22 June 2007, 20:06
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarah G
Many insurance companies specify that you must have a wheelclamp and a hitchlock as a minimum to ensure that you are insured. We went for the following from Marinescene.co.uk:-
UP-109145 - Fullstop Centurion Universal Wheel Clamp x 1 - £64.99
109170 - Full Stop Saracen Hitch Lock - £45.99
The advantage with the wheel clamp is that if you decide to fit bearing savers to your trailer in the future, you can expand the size of the wheelclamp to take this into account.
Check your insurance details first and then comply.
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Unfortunately the plate type clamps leave the wheelnuts exposed if bearing savers sit further out than the tyre sidewall meaning the wheel can be removed with a spanner. The only one I could find that'd fit my trailer was an SAS clamp.
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22 June 2007, 23:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 70
MMSI: 235057234
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Nos, fit locking wheel nuts to stop someone from simply replacing the wheel.
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22 June 2007, 23:24
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
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22 June 2007, 23:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Kaybe
Make: Ribtec
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha Wake Sport 50
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
I can hey an SAS clamp off in about twenty seconds without the key and I'm not eben from Portsmouth
http://www.western-towing.co.uk/acat...el_Clamps.html
I allso don;t think that SAS make the Bulldog clamp That's much better takes at least two minutes and needs 4*4
Alos keep you old padlock clamp and use that as well
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Are the Western Locks better then, good value - look good though and thanks for the feedback. Won't be thanking you though for your comment about Portsmouth, ha : )
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22 June 2007, 23:59
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
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Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
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Hi Western is just a vendor I posted it too identify the difference between SAS and Bulldog. IMO Bulldog are heaps better than SAS.
I don't really know abou value from Western but it certainly gives you a price comparison.
Re pompey I worked there for seven years and got a lot of stick for living in a better place got some good buddies there though
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23 June 2007, 19:49
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I used the Bulldog system on mine,it would compensate for the bearing saver,, i tried the SAS unit, But it had a allen key which you had to unscrew,imagine losing that!
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23 June 2007, 20:33
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Country: UK - England
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What model of Bulldog hitchlock is that Matt?
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24 June 2007, 08:11
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serial number for the hitchlock lock is BRC/BK, its a GA2750 series of bradley Autohead hitch, (rubber handled one) ordered one from Honeyfield trailers in Ashton,. Bristol,twas £90
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24 June 2007, 10:10
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt h
serial number for the hitchlock lock is BRC/BK, its a GA2750 series of bradley Autohead hitch, (rubber handled one) ordered one from Honeyfield trailers in Ashton,. Bristol,twas £90
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Ouch! Cheers Matt.
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24 June 2007, 14:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt h
I used the Bulldog system on mine,it would compensate for the bearing saver,, i tried the SAS unit, But it had a allen key which you had to unscrew,imagine losing that!
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Matt,
Looks like you have the same trailer as me. I've had trouble finding a hitchlock to fit. Is the one below the one you have. Not too keen on the price though. £96.
Its the TLB050 Bulldog Hitch Lock: Bradley couplings to 2600kg on this page http://www.trailerpartswarehouse.co....prices_81.html
The trailer I have is a R2B55H/RC with the following part numbers on the hitchlock:-
Bradley Double Lock.
94/20 000100 00
DC 24.84 KN B50X
Type Mk III Var A.
Cheers for any advice.
Nick R.
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