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24 October 2010, 16:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Forest
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Trailer Towing Lessons / Test
can anyone recommend a good driving school to take my trailer towing test?
anyone done the test? im i going to need to drive with hands at 10 to 2 and not feed the steering wheel or is it not like that???
thanks
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24 October 2010, 17:03
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Town: West Wittering
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
can anyone recommend a good driving school to take my trailer towing test?
anyone done the test? im i going to need to drive with hands at 10 to 2 and not feed the steering wheel or is it not like that???
thanks
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Mate, if it's just to move your boat around to get the bits done on it you want I am more than happy to tow it for you, no probs just shout!
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24 October 2010, 17:42
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Member
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Town: Torrance
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When my ex looked at doing in a couple of years ago so she could tow the horse box she was told her actual driving had to be of the same standard as to pass the car test as well as passing the trailer towing bit.
Shame she never took it 'cos she was sh1t hot at reversing it!
SDG
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24 October 2010, 19:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Staffordshire
Boat name: Pacific 9134
Make: Halmatic
Length: 6m +
Engine: 300hp Suzuki
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BOBS Trailer Training
Hi, I did mine with this guy last year:-
http://www.trailer-training-services.co.uk/
Intensive course starting 8am doing reversing, hooking up etc on an empty carpark first, followed by another couple of hours on the road, all in Bobs vehicle and with his trailer. The Test was arranged for tha afternoon - 20 minutes manouvering and then nearly an hour on the road.
Pleased to say I passed.:
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24 October 2010, 19:42
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Member
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Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
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This must be one of the few benifits of being an old bugger and having taken my test before this came into force.
Nasher.
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24 October 2010, 20:27
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Country: UK - Wales
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Did mine last year so I could tow the larger boats/trailers.
As said above, really good course, had a day's training, then a bit before the test the next day.
Thankfully, I found the reversing bit the easy bit (as Ive maneovered trailers for years), just found the 'test standard' driving the hardest to get back into - damn bad habits
Test is basically:
At test station:
15 min (or so) reversing exercise - basically big rectangle - start in bottom right, unhitch, pull forward, reverse & rehitch, then pull forward into top right corder, then reverse trailer to bottom left corner (pretend garage) without crossing the lines marking the outside of the box - must stop rear of trailer within a 6 inch variance (i.e. wall) and be straight in 'garage' - you can have two shunts (pull forwards) during the exercise and you can only get out once to see how close you are to the 6 inch variance
Emergency stop at test station
On the road:
30-40 min driving punctuated by a couple of 'please pull in at the earliest opportunity' and a hill start.
Just remember to check the cyclist you passed is still alive after you have passed him - I kept on forgetting
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05 November 2010, 18:55
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Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
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Originally Posted by Nasher
This must be one of the few benifits of being an old bugger and having taken my test before this came into force.
Nasher.
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I'll agree with that .
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05 November 2010, 19:36
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Country: UK - England
Make: extreme 24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nauti Buoy
Mate, if it's just to move your boat around to get the bits done on it you want I am more than happy to tow it for you, no probs just shout!
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old git
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05 November 2010, 21:40
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Town: West Wittering
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl
old git
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You are not funny, I would point out you too have a trailer licence!! OLD GIT
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22 February 2011, 19:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex
Boat name: Club Boat
Length: no boat
Engine: Yam 40hp
Join Date: Dec 2006
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I have now passed my B and E with K & W Training, Essex. Did the test today in Ipswich, they have changed the test now since last summer. You no longer do an emergency breaking at 20 mph, instead you do an "independant drive" for 5 minutes or so.
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23 February 2011, 11:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: canterbury
Boat name: TT dougal
Make: valiant
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Feb 2011
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before panicing about the towing test please read about it and research lots before doing the towing test as most of us youngsters get caught in the trap.
basically without the towing test we are restricted to towing a max of i think 650kgs un braked or max gross weight of 3500kgs braked.
the confusion is that we cannot tow more than the car hand book states or more than the car weight, which ever is less
i.e my car is 1250 kgs which should leave me to be able to tow 2250kgs but because my car is only capable of 1250kgs my max gross is 2500kgs
or if your lucky enough to drive a 4x4 of some kind that for example weighs in at a possible 2800kgs then you can only tow 700kgs = total 3500kgs,,
this is where the towing test come in because like a 4x4 that weighs 2800kgs its hand book might rate the towing weight to 25000kgs. which would obviously put u above the 3500kgs max gross limit at 5300 kgs this is where your towing test comes in and is required...
this is why carefull research, car choices and dare i say it boat choice could keep you well within the law. the only one thing i would say is dont just take my word for it the info is on the dvla web site and they will give you all needed info on the phone and my local towing centers have flyers about it all be it a bit missleading..
regards
dougal
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23 February 2011, 12:04
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Im worried now, I didn't know there was a test, does that mean that ive been towing my boat ilegally ? Im confused. When I bought my 7.5M Cobra I towed it through the new forest and through Burley...that was quite a test avoiding tourists, horses, donkeys, even pigs !
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23 February 2011, 12:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex
Boat name: Club Boat
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@dougal_22 - there are a lot of people with this view on websites when talking about towing.
The reason I did the test was because I am towing 6 Laser Picos on one trailer. Each boat weighs 60Kg (hull weight only) without taking the trolleys and other parts into account. The trailer it sits on is a rib base with a frame work, etc etc.
So without going into it, the reason I did the test was so the 4x4 I am towing with has the man power to pull it up a hill.
I see what people say about oh, just buy a car that can tow it bla bla but for £500 I can now tow a large trailer/caravan/boat whenever I like till I need to renew my license in 45 years time.
I know from the school I did mine with, yes people do not know, and the only reason some are doing the test is because the Police are checking everynow and again. (18 year old friend keeps getting stopped by the police towing a 49er dinghy, hull weight 80kg, length - 16ft)
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23 February 2011, 12:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Herne Bay
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Make: Zodiac
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boristhebold
Im worried now, I didn't know there was a test, does that mean that ive been towing my boat ilegally ? Im confused. When I bought my 7.5M Cobra I towed it through the new forest and through Burley...that was quite a test avoiding tourists, horses, donkeys, even pigs !
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All depends on your licence, when you passed your test and how much your trailer weighs.
See this from the DVLA site, its what i had to go on.
A "B" licence allows for a driver to use a car up to 3500 KG's.
It also allows a trailer to be towed up to a max 750 KG's.
Therefore this has a combined weight of 4250 KG's and is allowed.
If your car weighs (unladen) 2500 KG's. You can tow a trailer of 1000 KG's on your "B" Licence as the total weight = 3500 Kg's.
Or if you car weighs 1500 KG's, you can tow a trailer of 1450 KG's. Giving a total weight of 2950 KG's.
It think this bit is probably what will refer to your set up.
If your trailer is over 750 KG's then you can tow it on your "B" licence provided your the trailer does not weigh more than the unladen car weight (the weight in your car manual) and does NOT go over 3500 Kg's combined trailer and car together.
DVLA LINK =
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...es/DG_10013073
Hope it helps
Cheers, Matt.
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23 February 2011, 13:34
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Member
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Town: Dorset & Hants
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boristhebold
Im worried now, I didn't know there was a test, does that mean that ive been towing my boat ilegally ? Im confused. When I bought my 7.5M Cobra I towed it through the new forest and through Burley...that was quite a test avoiding tourists, horses, donkeys, even pigs !
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Forgive me Mark but I 'think' you may be 'mature' enough to not need a test .....assuming you passed your test before 1st Jan 1997 ......dont think the boat + trailer + car are over 8.25 tonnes ?
From : http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...les/DG_4022564
Car licences held before 1 January 1997
All drivers who passed a car test before 1 January 1997 retain their existing entitlement to tow trailers until their licence expires. This means they are generally entitled to drive a vehicle and trailer combination up to 8.25 tonnes MAM. They also have entitlement to drive a minibus with a trailer over 750kgs MAM
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23 February 2011, 14:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: canterbury
Boat name: TT dougal
Make: valiant
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Feb 2011
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dvla informed me on the phone on 2 seperate phone calls what i said was correct and it was only meant as a guide only.
max gross of 3.5t trailer not exceeding what its being towed with. i had a shetland 535 with a 50hp 2 stroke weighed on a wey bridge at just under 680kgs
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