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09 November 2013, 15:50
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Member
Country: France
Town: Huisnes sur Mer
Boat name: Raufoss
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Got my transport cradle back From the galvanizers the other day and fitted it out with the landing pads, rollers etc....
My little SR is finally mobile at last :-)
Simon
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09 November 2013, 15:56
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Member
Country: France
Town: Huisnes sur Mer
Boat name: Raufoss
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 789
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Forgot to attach pictures....
Simon
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09 November 2013, 15:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wirral & Caernarfon
Boat name: That's Enuff
Make: Revenger & Avon SR4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Honda 150HP & 50HP
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,421
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Originally Posted by Anchorhandler
Got my transport cradle back From the galvanizers the other day and fitted it out with the landing pads, rollers etc....
My little SR is finally mobile at last :-)
Simon
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any pics ? been thinking about similar for my SR4
should have waited
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09 November 2013, 18:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,299
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Jeezus.. Looks a heavy lump for a sr4 Dude!
how does it perform?
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09 November 2013, 19:45
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Member
Country: France
Town: Huisnes sur Mer
Boat name: Raufoss
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 789
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Originally Posted by matt h
Jeezus.. Looks a heavy lump for a sr4 Dude!
how does it perform?
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Yeah performs OK, its got a 6 cyl Cummins engine 180hp. Not bad for a small truck. Handles like most rigid HGV's, tail happy in the wet when unloaded but pretty stable at 56mph.
Simon
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09 November 2013, 20:15
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Member
Country: Australia
Town: Sydney
Boat name: Lunasea
Make: Ribtec 890SX
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yamaha ME 421STI x 2
Join Date: Aug 2009
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When I was a kid I used to ride my bike to the boat ramp and watch the boats being launched.
After seeing all the rusty trailers and the problems people had launching, I always dreamed of having a truck with a crane and a boat on a cradle.....and here it is. Excellent job!
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10 November 2013, 01:47
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Member
Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,097
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Excellent!
Now where is the picture of the boat being craned into the water?
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10 November 2013, 02:24
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
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Originally Posted by Peter_C
Excellent! Now where is the picture of the boat being craned into the water?
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hopefully better than this
http://youtu.be/2OwNYIdJmlQ
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10 November 2013, 08:07
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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I've had in my mind something similar. I'm looking at a RO RO system that way I can put different backs on the lorry. I've seen them in Europe but nothing that small over here
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10 November 2013, 08:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Bubbas Bouy
Length: 7m +
Engine: Mercruiser
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 629
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That's a fake! The car and the 1st recovery truck going in are real, the rest is just photoshop.
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10 November 2013, 09:56
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Member
Country: France
Town: Huisnes sur Mer
Boat name: Raufoss
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt h
Jeezus.. Looks a heavy lump for a sr4 Dude!
how does it perform?
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Sorry Matt, its a two stroke 50hp so only weighs 92kg, comfortably under the max allowed weight for the transom. The console and 90ltr internal fuel tank has been fitted as far forward as possible to avoid the boat being arse heavy. Add the weight of the chubby fecker of a helmsman (me) and i reckon i'l be suffering cavitations problems with the prop...
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Originally Posted by kubcat
When I was a kid I used to ride my bike to the boat ramp and watch the boats being launched.
After seeing all the rusty trailers and the problems people had launching, I always dreamed of having a truck with a crane and a boat on a cradle.....and here it is. Excellent job!
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Why thank you Sir....
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Originally Posted by Peter_C
Excellent!
Now where is the picture of the boat being craned into the water?
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Weather here at the moment is what i like to call "Baghdad weather"...its either Sunni or Shiite! (but mostly Shiit) If off abroad again shortly for work reasons but hopefully gonna get it in the water next month.
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Originally Posted by biffer
I've had in my mind something similar. I'm looking at a RO RO system that way I can put different backs on the lorry. I've seen them in Europe but nothing that small over here
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Yep, there had to be a better way of getting your boat from the trailer to the sea and vice versa...I was originally going to fabricate a large hydraulic "A" frame system attached to the rear of the lorry. This would have picked the boat up and swung it rearwards over the end of the bed ready for it to be lowered into the water. In the end i opted for the cradle option as i needed the means to store the boat and move it around when not being transported on the truck. I have a set of large (300kg each) castors which i bolt onto the frame which allows me to trailer the cradle/boat around the yard/workshop. I fitted liffting lugs to the cradle corners to allow the crane to either pick up the cradle and boat together then when i arrive at any slip or quay, detach the boat from the cradle and lift only the boat into the water.
I'm using a Whichard snap shackle on the end of the crane hook to remotely release the lifting slings from the end of the crane. Saves climbing down into the boat to undo it from the crane hook.
Bedajim had a really good idea with his trailer, something similar to what your on about doing. The trailer he made had a seperate launching trolley which could release and lower the boat into the water. Seemed to work quite well.
When you say a RoRo, do you mean a Hook loader system where different typres of chassis/frames can be winched/pulled onto the truck bed?...Not a bad idea as it would certainly be very versatile alowing all typres of boat shapes to be carried. As you say, here on the continent, you can get hook loader systems for 3.5t vehicles like Sprinter's etc. Our local council even have a couple of Renault Master's fitted with De-mountable beds. wouldn't be too difficult to bring something back over to the UK
Simon
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10 November 2013, 10:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
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We used to have our race boat on a lorry - used to cause quite a stir down on the slipway in Salcombe!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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10 November 2013, 10:24
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Member
Country: France
Town: Huisnes sur Mer
Boat name: Raufoss
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
We used to have our race boat on a lorry - used to cause quite a stir down on the slipway in Salcombe!
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Hi Cooker
How did you get on with the craning on/off?
My only concern is the stability of the truck on a slippery (and possibly steep) slipway. hopefully I will be avoiding those types of slipways from now on anyway preferring any quay where the truck can get within a meter of the quayside but any tips you can give would be appreciated.
Simon
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10 November 2013, 11:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Simon
Can I ask Why ? It seems a lot of hassle and expense for what is a very small, light Rib ?
Cool though...
www.BoatsandOutboards4Sale.co.uk
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10 November 2013, 11:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anchorhandler
Hi Cooker
How did you get on with the craning on/off?
My only concern is the stability of the truck on a slippery (and possibly steep) slipway. hopefully I will be avoiding those types of slipways from now on anyway preferring any quay where the truck can get within a meter of the quayside but any tips you can give would be appreciated.
Simon
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The only slipway we launched from was Salcombe and that isn't covered in green slime. The only exception to that was Plymouth and it was a bit of a reach so we tried launching over the top of the cab, we abandoned that plan after I looked round to see the back wheels a foot off the ground!
Advice is therefore: Avoid slippery slipways and don't try and launch over the top of the cab - other than that use best practise!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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10 November 2013, 11:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Yes hook loader, where I've got varied interests I could have flatbed, skip, boat frame curtain side etc and one truck
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10 November 2013, 12:23
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Member
Country: France
Town: Huisnes sur Mer
Boat name: Raufoss
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 789
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Hi Peter
To be honest its not been that much hassle. The truck i had already as it forms an integral part of my workshop over here. We use it for collecting steel stock from suppliers then delivering to customers projects which we have fabricated. When its not doing that it runs building material deliveries (builders bags pallets of concrete blocks etc) in the local area.
Most of the steel used i already had in stock with the exception of the 100mm tube. These were left overs from previous fabrication projects. I have an account at the galvanizers who give me a pretty good price for the dipping too.
All in there is probably only a few days of time spent fabricating the chassis so nothing to worry about there.
Its true though that it would very much a specialist ptoject if i were to build it again for a customer especially if i charged the normal workshop rate.
At the end of the day, it is only suitable for small ribs up to about 4.7m and even then, unless you had a crane truck, you could only use it to store/move the boat about a yard/workshop. It would probably be uneconomical.
Now for the "why"...
Well, like a lot of us on this forum, i have been launching recovering boats from trailers since i was about 19...i'm now 41 so have been doing it for the best part of 22 years. After all this time, i got a bit fed up of the hassle associated with doing this, waiting for your turn at the slipway, (either launching OR recovering) struggling to park a 4X4+trailer due to lack of space, getting your feet (or more) wet then having to climb into the vehicle and drive up the slip etc. etc .
I love spending timle on the water but have always seen the launching/recovering process as a bit of an anticlimax. Nowadays, i just want to get out on the water in the easiest manner possible with as little stress as possible.
I'm on the waiting list for a berth at Granville and St Malo but until that magical day happens when i actually get a berth, i figured i would do this.
Hopefully should prove a success if not they will be a very nice SR4/SR4.7 yard trolly for sale...
Simon
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10 November 2013, 14:03
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anchorhandler
...waiting for your turn at the slipway...
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I got an image of me faffing with a jammed tie town ratchet that I had forgotten to remove (which happened last time I launched) and then your boat flying over my head
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10 November 2013, 18:55
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Barmouth
Boat name: Blue Marlin
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yanmar 315/Bravo 2X
MMSI: 235020218
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Now that I've got my H class license, I quite fancy a REME FV432 - the version that comes with a 5m flat, open rear deck, and a HIAB (which must be up to the job ). I don't think I'd manage to turn that over.
All I have to do now is convince the misses that we REALLY need it, and lie about the cost...
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10 November 2013, 21:27
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Member
Country: France
Town: Huisnes sur Mer
Boat name: Raufoss
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DGR
Now that I've got my H class license, I quite fancy a REME FV432 - the version that comes with a 5m flat, open rear deck, and a HIAB (which must be up to the job ). I don't think I'd manage to turn that over.
All I have to do now is convince the misses that we REALLY need it, and lie about the cost...
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Got to admit, I had to Google what an H class licence was...:-)
Just think though, with a FV432 I doubt you would have to wait very long at the slipway! ::-):
I looked a few years ago at similar vehicles including a lovely Russian Zil tracked APC but Mrs Anchorhandler threatened to divorce me! the prices were extremely good value for money though (which strangely made no difference to my case for justifying one)...
One day maybe...
Simon
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