US 4p flat to 13p EU converter

[MatFromPoland]

Hello,

I do have newer car (again from US) and it has factory "towing package" with 4p flat US socket. Please find mentioned below picture of my car equipment:



It has been made probably like that (mine is 2015):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4uSULALaXk

And I have found ready to use adapter which converts lights from 4p into 7p EU




The only problem is:

1. I have to have 13p socket which has reverse light (7p doesn't have it)

I can change 7p to 13p socket by myself (not problem).

My question is: Can I add DIRECTLY wire from revers lamp to 13p socket

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HONDA ASO and any electric garage offer me new "universal" module which require to connect to lamps, battery. I can buy this converter for 70 EUR and avoid to make from scratch trailer instalation.

I have not knowledge about this so any advice from experience people are wellcome. Generally I'm curious if add directly ONE wire from reverse lamp to 13p socket is risky or not ??

[ShinyShoe]

Confused how in a union of countries with standards you've ended up with some sh*te from across the pond! Anyway...

Back before people had plug and play you took a wire tap connector (an in-line crimp) that allowed you to tap into the existing wiring. They aren't wonderful technology. And depending on your vehicle electrics (if it uses LEDs for instance) the wire may be very thin and not designed for standard current if your trailer board is old school...

But if its an old school incandescant bulb I'm not sure it will do any harm.

Fog light? (Beware - higher current)

[Last Tango]

Are your trailer lights LED? If they are it's unlikely you'll do any harm if the car's are incandescent bulbs but if they're covered by CAN-BUS monitoring (reversing lights aren't always monitored) you might find the trailer lights flicker when they're meant to be off.

[HDAV]

Don’t suppose you have looked to unplug the socket from the loom? See if it matches the set up on another EU machine and buy the loom plug in from dealer with EU socket already fitted?

Perhaps a Honda CR-V or accord towing loom will fit?

[MatFromPoland]

HONDA dealer in Warsaw doesn't know this system.
When you look at YT movie from first post there is CanBus box in the rear part of the car.
Generally they didn't know what to do

I have bought this adapter and will see. Trailer has normal bulbs, the car also.
It be the only one more wire from reverse light to socket - that's all

Will give feedback. There is not so big VAN in EU.
V-klasse or VW bus will not fit in garage and they are buses really.

Probably the last one my Honda Odyssey (previous have been using 7 y).
Kids are teenagers and after 5 y maybe it be less people in the car ... and less items.
Very comfortable to long trips.

[mikew4]

Originally Posted by MatFromPoland

The only problem is:

1. I have to have 13p socket which has reverse light (7p doesn't have it)

I can change 7p to 13p socket by myself (not problem).

My question is: Can I add DIRECTLY wire from revers lamp to 13p socket

Yes.

Chop off the 7 pin socket and replace it with a 13 pin. Add an additional wire to pin 8.

Your next challenge is how you connect to the car....

Personally I would change the US 4 pin connector to a 13 pin and be done with it. A proper job.

[beamishken]

Surely the answer is to change the socket on the car?
The reverse light isn't the only issue . The US system flashes the stop lights for turn signal so i guess that wouldn't be legal in Europe either?

[MatFromPoland]

This electronic do the job and replaces blinking stop to left/right/stop/tr.lights/...
All local legal EU lights without revers light only (4p flat US don't have revers)

[Pikey Dave]

Are you planning on changing the towing bracket Maciej? Is the existing one suitable for a 50mm ball hitch?

[HDAV]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Are you planning on changing the towing bracket Maciej? Is the existing one suitable for a 50mm ball hitch?

Probably a 2” receiver that you cab get a ball attachment for surprised there isn’t a loom to Euro 7/13 pin lead

[MatFromPoland]

I have bought this one (made in Poland UE certificate) . Fits perfectly. Maker allow use ball in both orientation





This is picture from older car which I have been using 7 y:


in the older one electric socket has been made by Honda Poland dealer and I wasn't happy ....

[MatFromPoland]

OK, I have collected all items ...

I have bought conversion module from Ukraina. Reasonable price, tracking parcel features (found them on FB https://www.facebook.com/autodels/)

https://autodels.ua/accessories/112_...ontaktov-.html

You can communicate in English. The price is about 55 EUR + shipping.
It is converter from 4p flat connector (which my car has) to 7p EU socket.
I need 13p so buy some cheap adapter to test only solution.

I bought also 13p socket to change later wires and mount everything in the car.
I have bought also Made in Poland tester (it costs about 12 GBP)

Here are all items.




And how it works:

[Jeff]

Nice one Maciej Matt 😎