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15 September 2014, 21:23
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Vanclaes trailers
At the Southampton Boat Show yesterday these trailers caught my eye. Manufactured in the Netherlands they are completely stainless steel apart from glavanised axles, and come with submersible LED lighting as standard. They have a two year warranty.
Their flagship range is completely customisable and uses multiple rollers and rubber wheels to spread the load. The design is apparently self-centring making loading very easy.
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15 September 2014, 21:30
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They also have a more conventionally designed range at a more competitive price. It's still stainless steel with submersible LED lights, and they reckon the price is withing a couple of hundred pounds of a comparable galvanised trailer.
Unbraked trailers have oil filled hubs which are claimed to be totally maintenance free. They also have disk brakes as an option which have the same oil filled hubs. I didn't go into the details but I'm sure they'd be happy to talk to anyone who is interested.
The UK dealer is South London Trailer Centre South London Trailer Centre
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15 September 2014, 22:31
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I looked at these at the show, but couldn't see the point, as the main failure point was still conventional galv. I've never had a trailer fail structurally, it's always brakes, bearings & suspension units that cause the problems. They did look rather Gucci though
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15 September 2014, 22:35
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The running gear is going to stand up to use in the sea, so they will get interest.
I know of one trailer supplier currently in the process of getting it on as main distribution agents. Th went to look at them in a holland and apparently they have one in a huge tank which had been submerged in water for a few years looks as new!
Expensive but might be a case of you get what you pay for let's wait and see
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale
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15 September 2014, 22:41
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I'd like to see one in action with a heavy boat to see how much deflection there is on those foam filled tyres.
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15 September 2014, 22:44
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They just look like the wheels on a wheel barrow from B+Q to me ...
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15 September 2014, 22:59
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Vanclaes trailers
My concern was how high boats sit on the trailer.
Apparently the chap who designed them fell into it by mistake really, he owned a small yard and was tired of launching/recovering rotten trailers with faulty brakes so thought "is there not a sea going trailer out there that actually can handle the sea ?" Nope, then he started designing one.
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15 September 2014, 23:00
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forgot the picture
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21 September 2014, 20:52
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I saw these. Very impressed. The price for my 6.4m rib worked out £250 cheaper than a SBS trailer! They have an all stainless axle too but wont sell it as its not been type approved yet.
They were selling their LED waterproof lights off at £5 for a pair on the last day. I bought 3x sets. Lol!
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21 September 2014, 21:05
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
Unbraked trailers have oil filled hubs which are claimed to be totally maintenance free.
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I've got oil bath hubs on my trailer which is now something like 8 years old and never had a bearing change... I'm probably going to change the oil this year. They are reasonably common across the atlantic - especially on smaller trailers.
Have they found a solution for disk brakes which meets UK (EU?) rules on reversing?
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21 September 2014, 21:38
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I presume so, as they said they are EU type approved but I didn't get the details.
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24 September 2014, 21:04
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Hi All
I would like to answer some of the questions asked.
Each wheel is designed to take 150kg so any deflection will not occur under normal use, the heavier the boat, the more wheels and keel rollers required.
B&Q would love these wheels for their wheel barrows, "no more punctures"
I am assured that all UK regs re the reversing of these trailers with Disc Brakes has been addressed and is covered by the European Type Approval of these trailers. One of the first questions I asked.
All trailers come with a full EC Certificate of Conformity (COC) document.
Thanks for visiting us at the Southampton Boat Show and for the positive comments.
If there are any further questions you would like to ask of either the Customshop or the Standard trailers, please fire away.
Regards Steve
South London Trailer Centre
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28 September 2014, 10:13
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I've got oil bath hubs on my trailer which is now something like 8 years old and never had a bearing change...
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And you dunk them 52 weeks a year after driving 500 miles at 70mph don't you ;-)
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28 September 2014, 10:14
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That does look like its quite high... So you will need to dunk it more? In which case can they do a stainless car too?
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28 September 2014, 11:21
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And you dunk them 52 weeks a year after driving 500 miles at 70mph don't you ;-)
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I'm not convinced that regularly used trailers suffer more than those neglected in boat parks.
Its probably done about 6000 miles in that time, a mixture of motorway (60mph) and small twisty roads, usually dunked in the sea soon after arrival. Its on its second tow hitch (probably to be replaced again this winter) and its second jockey wheel - so its certainly not had unlimited TLC.
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28 September 2014, 11:28
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Three tow hitches... Jesus
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28 September 2014, 18:59
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I think they are fantastic trailers I've always liked them and I think they represent a step change forward. My nipper saw them at the Boat Show and he was veery impressed with them. So I think i'd like one
looks like I'm gonna need to find some more work
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28 September 2014, 20:48
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I am not sure about them. problem is, all my trailers the axels have gone, not the frame. So the stainless bits aren't a problem, galvanised axels - the most important bits will still rust?!
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28 September 2014, 22:52
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I once picked up an old boat on a galv trailer. Trailer looked old but i was happy to tow it home.
The draw-bar collapsed on the M25. Rusted from the inside out. The outside looked reasonably rust free.
Luckily it didnt break free but stayed attached by a slim bit of metal.
AA home job!
At least if the axle goes rusty you can just buy a new axle.
I too like these trailers.
Thinking about getting one.
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29 September 2014, 16:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
I've got oil bath hubs on my trailer which is now something like 8 years old and never had a bearing change... I'm probably going to change the oil this year. They are reasonably common across the atlantic - especially on smaller trailers.
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Was going to say that they're not really new... You beat me to it.
AFAIK, they're not really "maintenance free" in the sense that they don't require any looking after; they may still leak at the inner seal and may require top up now and again. Most of the ones in the US have a polycarbonate cap that may crack/shatter if thumped, which will cause a bit of a problem.
All the above is from reports; I have standard roller bearings on mine. Not all that different; just that the oil is suspended in soap and released when needed.
jky
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