Vehicle unbraked towing weights

[chris.moody]

Does the maximum unbraked towing capacity of the tow car need to be greater than

1. The actual weight of trailer, boat, engine, fuel and all kit in the boat

2. The plated max gross weight on the trailer

Chris

[m chappelow]

Not sure but think an unbraked trailer has to weigh less than the unladen weight of the tow car & its compulsory to have a safety chain fitted .

[mick]

Think its 750kg max unbraked have a look here it's an Aus site but same weights http://www.beadelltours.com.au/tow.html

[A1an]

Tbh, very few people ACTUALLY know.


Il find out when I get stopped.

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by chris.moody

Does the maximum unbraked towing capacity of the tow car need to be greater than

1. The actual weight of trailer, boat, engine, fuel and all kit in the boat

2. The plated max gross weight on the trailer

Chris

Have you got a tow car in mind that actually states an unbraked towing capacity?

[m chappelow]

Originally Posted by mick

Think its 750kg max unbraked have a look here it's an Aus site but same weights http://www.beadelltours.com.au/tow.html

750 kgs unbraked is a maximum only if the tow vehicle is heavy enough , Primary regulation is that unbraked has to weigh Less than half the tow car unladen weight eg
Tow vehicle 1000 kgs trailer 500kgs
Tow vehicle 800 kgs trailer 400kgs
Tow vehicle 1500 kgs Trailer 750 kg

[cptsideways]

Originally Posted by m chappelow

750 kgs unbraked is only a maximum if the tow vehicle is heavy enough , Primary regulation is that unbraked has to weigh Less than half the tow car eg
Tow vehicle 1000 kgs trailer 500kgs
Tow vehicle 800 kgs trailer 400kgs
Tow vehicle 1500 kgs Trailer 750 kg

Thats rubbish

Plated weights for each vehicle are type approved & vary by manufacturer. What your thinking of is caravanners "rules" which are neither law or type approval just their own made up rules based on safetu assumptions

[m chappelow]

Originally Posted by cptsideways

Thats rubbish Plated weights for each vehicle are type approved & vary by manufacturer. What your thinking of is caravanners "rules" which are neither law or type approval just their own made up rules based on safetu assumptions

Might be made up for caravans but not trailers ,

[Trailer Guy]

Unbraked max. is 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less

[Trailer Guy]

Our posts must've crossed, you are correct m chappelow

The caravanner's thing is 85% of the kerb weight of the vehicle. which is just a recommendation from the caravan club, not law. That part you're correct on cptsideways

[Mcd22]

Originally Posted by chris.moody

Does the maximum unbraked towing capacity of the tow car need to be greater than

1. The actual weight of trailer, boat, engine, fuel and all kit in the boat

2. The plated max gross weight on the trailer

Chris

The capacity of the car must be equal to or greater than the plated weight of the trailer. What the trailer actually weighs doesn't matter as long as you are not overweight.

[chris.moody]

I was looking at the Skoda Octavia but it seems that none of them can tow a 750kg unbraked trailer legally (mine has a max gross weight of 710kg).

It just surprised me that I could not tow my sr4 behind something the size of an Octavia.

Chris

[cptsideways]

Originally Posted by m chappelow

Might be made up for caravans but not trailers ,

Is this not a rule for those those without B+E (towing) on their licences?? I stand to be corrected! though I am aware there were some more new rules introduced again recently.

[m chappelow]

Originally Posted by chris.moody

I was looking at the Skoda Octavia but it seems that none of them can tow a 750kg unbraked trailer legally (mine has a max gross weight of 710kg). It just surprised me that I could not tow my sr4 behind something the size of an Octavia. Chris

Just depends which model Octavia you have , looking at the octavia towing limits the largest model the diesel 2 ltr is ok for 750 kg unbraked the next down 740 kg but all other models are 640 kg limit .

[Searider]

Originally Posted by chris.moody

I was looking at the Skoda Octavia but it seems that none of them can tow a 750kg unbraked trailer legally (mine has a max gross weight of 710kg).

It just surprised me that I could not tow my sr4 behind something the size of an Octavia.

Chris

But surely your SR4 on its trailer is nowhere near 750kg.

My SR5.4 with a 90hp on its trailer was under 750kg (on a weighbridge - not guessed)

[m chappelow]

Originally Posted by cptsideways

Is this not a rule for those those without B+E (towing) on their licences?? I stand to be corrected! though I am aware there were some more new rules introduced again recently.

Its always been the case for unbraked trailers (half the kerb weight of the towing car ) Your right about 85% thing as you said is only a code or advise for the inexperienced caravan club crowd but thats for braked trailers / caravans as at one time you could only tow with braked trailers weight for weight .

[m chappelow]

Originally Posted by Searider

But surely your SR4 on its trailer is nowhere near 750kg. My SR5.4 with a 90hp on its trailer was under 750kg (on a weighbridge - not guessed)

as mcd said earlier its trailer plated weight ,suppose way around it would be to weigh your boat & trailer , see what it is then see if theres a big difference on the plated weight to what your boat & kit actually does weigh if there is try get a lower plate to match your boat or another lower plated trailer that suits your own boat if your cars unbraked tow limits over weight . Just makes you wonder how many boat/ trailer packages have been supplied by firms from new say with a plated 750 kg unbraked trailer when possibly a much lower capacity would be better for a light boat & small car .

[58 North]

My Ribcraft 5.3 with a 70hp is 1140kg all up.

[Searider]

Originally Posted by 58 North

My Ribcraft 5.3 with a 70hp is 1140kg all up.

Sounds like a lot!

[jambo]

Originally Posted by Searider

Sounds like a lot!

Was thing the same. Is there something inboard that is not standard?

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