10Hp Outboards

Stigomery · 12 January 2016, 13:45

There's a group test of 10Hp outboards in the Feb edition of Motorboat mag if anyone is interested in a new motor. Interestingly, having asked about this brand in the past, Parsun isn't even included in the test group.

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Fenlander · 12 January 2016, 14:14

Ohh someone have a read in W H Smith and tell us what it says!

Stigomery · 12 January 2016, 14:30

Honda (4/5) was most refined and quietest but with the lowest top speed, 15kns compared to best 17kns (Mercury/Mariner).
Yam and Mercury rated top overall with 5/5.
Twatsu & Lehr only got a 3/5.
Suzuki also 4/5.

(the Honda result saddens me if the BF20 is also the slowest compared to its peers as that's what I've recently invested in)

Xk59D · 12 January 2016, 18:19

honda outboards are not known for speed nor being light in most cases unfortunately. they certainly were very reliable and i am sure they still are, so are the rest these days though.

coincidently, i was looking at honwaves and 20hp honda packages today in Edinburgh, the price of honda engines is a nonsense IMO, would be buying a merc/mariner personally and saving a small fortune (over 500 quid)

Stigomery · 12 January 2016, 18:37

Not sure what price you were seeing in Edinburgh but my new Honwave T38 plus Honda BF20 package came in at a smidge under £3300 in December 2015. If you deduct the price of a T38 at say £1k my BF20 comes in at £2300 which is almost the same as the price quoted in the mag for the BF10 (£2255)...!!!

Being new to all this I'm happy for now

Xk59D · 12 January 2016, 19:13

hey there,

the engine was £2500 for a 20hp honda or a merc/mariner was £2000 on the nose from that particular dealer. i can get a mariner 20 for £1900 though elsewhere or £2250 for a honda if i was feeling in a burn money mood

i have the honda price list in my car, if i can be bothered to walk 20ft to get it i'll post up the price for the 10

however, you would need to be radio rental to splash £2255 on a 10hp honda if that really is the price, that is (edit) £600 more than a merc/mariner 9.9hp

Stigomery · 12 January 2016, 19:28

The Merc was £1800 in the mag, so yup, £555 less than the Honda.

My local dealer is Honda/Suzuki which is the main reason I went with one of those makes, my other option was Yam but a little too far away and worked out pricier.

Xk59D · 12 January 2016, 19:44

hey mate,

i am lucky that clyde outboards is on my doorstep and they sell merc, mariner, honda and suzuki. within 30 miles though i have access to yamaha and evinrude too...i.e i have them all pretty close so that isn't a concern for me, ymmv ofcourse.

If i was you i wouldn't be concerned at all honda maybe isn't the quickest, if you are happy that is all the matters. that is a very tidy little package you have there and i would be very happy with that myself. no one ever sits flat out anyway so if it is slower...who cares!

Stigomery · 12 January 2016, 20:57

It's my first set up and I haven't even had it on the water yet so I'm happy and excited regardless.

I guess I was very surprised though to read that there could be as much as 2 knots difference on a same size engine, given also that the Honda has the biggest engine size (displacement). That's 14% difference which is pretty impressive. I'd not really thought about same HP delivering different power into the water.

One lives and learns...

Poly · 12 January 2016, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Stigomery

It's my first set up and I haven't even had it on the water yet so I'm happy and excited regardless.

I guess I was very surprised though to read that there could be as much as 2 knots difference on a same size engine, given also that the Honda has the biggest engine size (displacement). That's 14% difference which is pretty impressive. I'd not really thought about same HP delivering different power into the water.

One lives and learns...

I wouldn't read too much into that. I haven't seen the article - but how were they all propped, engine heights optimised, trimmed, setup, run in, loaded etc? Its almost impossible to test all the boats in identical conditions as either you have slightly different loads / boats etc or you are testing at slightly different times (tide, wind, waves). Now there is supposedly a 10% variation allowable in the spec of an engine to allow for production variation - so even if in this test there was a real variance it wouldn't mean that you'd see the same with 4 different engines from different batches.

Ron Noco · 12 January 2016, 21:19

What was the boat they used? Weight, how much gear/ passengers?

@WOT I was only getting 7kts with my Honda BF10, on 4.5mt 200kg + poly type boat...

I got 22kts with a 30hp

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Stigomery · 12 January 2016, 21:29

I assume the load was the same across tests, done on a 2.9m Orange Marine tender.

Nightfisher · 14 January 2016, 07:27

Interesting article, Stigomery thanks for sharing.
From Inboard/outboards through many Outboards I have stuck with Mercury. Though, Yamaha's been catching-up on overall sales and can take a real beating and remain dependable. Also liked their two stroke engines as the oil/fuel mixture was 100-1.

Friends of mine that have or do own a Yamaha, lov'm. Yamaha used to manufacture Mercury engines 3-20 hp. I believe Tohatsu make the lower powered Mercs now.