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22 September 2009, 19:51
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Hi all ,well my memorys slipping ,i can t remember how much 2 stroke oil i mix to a 5 litre can of petrol ,o/b is a marinar 3.3 i have been adding 100mm oil mix to a 5lt can of petrol is this right,i beleive 50:1 mix ?on tank think it says 100:1,but under the impression 50:1 is fine?
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22 September 2009, 20:01
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Engine will last longer if it's 50:1 - plugs will last longer with 100:1
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22 September 2009, 20:17
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Engine will last longer if it's 50:1 - plugs will last longer with 100:1
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cheers mate,so would i put 50mm of oil to 5 litres of petrol? i would rather the engine last longer then the plugs
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22 September 2009, 20:44
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So would I - you need 100ml of oil for 5 litres - this gives you 50:1.
Here ia a handy little calculator if you are messing with different ratios - litres at the bottom.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/oilfuelcalc.html
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22 September 2009, 21:36
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Engine will last longer if it's 50:1 - plugs will last longer with 100:1
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Has anybody used 100:1 gas/oil ratio for a long time instead 50:1 ratio mostly used on 2 strokes engines ? What was the result ? If you can use 100:1, why are outboard manufacturers not specifying so in the owners manuals ?
Happy Sibbing
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22 September 2009, 21:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
So would I - you need 100ml of oil for 5 litres - this gives you 50:1.
Here ia a handy little calculator if you are messing with different ratios - litres at the bottom.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/oilfuelcalc.html
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Cheers mate,its come back to me now ,thats the rtatio i have been using got a baby bottle and i remember now filling it 100ml ,just been a while and i am getting forgetfull in my ole age ,lol,thanks again mate
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22 September 2009, 21:56
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Originally Posted by Locozodiac
Has anybody used 100:1 gas/oil ratio for a long time instead 50:1 ratio mostly used on 2 strokes engines ? What was the result ? If you can use 100:1, why are outboard manufacturers not specifying so in the owners manuals ?
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I thought Suzuki did years ago.
I know I was told you can run 50:1 on one 2 stroke oil and 100:1 on higher spec oil.
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22 September 2009, 22:06
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Originally Posted by Locozodiac
Has anybody used 100:1 gas/oil ratio for a long time instead 50:1 ratio mostly used on 2 strokes engines ? What was the result ? If you can use 100:1, why are outboard manufacturers not specifying so in the owners manuals ?
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Many do - it all depends what country you are in. It is for environmental reasons rather than anything else!!!
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23 September 2009, 16:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
Has anybody used 100:1 gas/oil ratio for a long time instead 50:1 ratio mostly used on 2 strokes engines ? What was the result ? If you can use 100:1, why are outboard manufacturers not specifying so in the owners manuals ?
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Or why doesn't everyone just use 75:1 to get a balance between plug and engine life?
:-)
Lyle
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23 September 2009, 20:40
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had a 2 hp yamaha that ran for years with no bother on 100/1 though i still put a tad extra oil in ,,especially as i had been brought up with an old seagull running at 10/1 lol,and other engines running on 50/1,, doing the fuel mix was like a surgical operation ,,always had visions of it siezing up though i never had any problemswith it ,
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24 September 2009, 22:09
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Many do - it all depends what country you are in. It is for environmental reasons rather than anything else!!!
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We have imported modern 2 strokes Mariner/Tohatsu engines from USA, Panama, Japan and all their manuals stated 50:1 ratio, so for this brand, the geographical / environmental location is not an issue for going 100:1. For the moment, will stick with usual 50:1 untill there is a factory bulletin specifying so. Consult your owners manual for your 2 strokes engine brand before going 100:1 or repent forever for experimenting.
Happy Sibbing
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26 September 2009, 18:33
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Many yamaha's of the 1970's and 1980's had 100 to 1 printed on the side of the engines
just below the hoods in white letters.
To be honest i think 100 -1 is asking for a meltdown if running for long periods.
personaly i would stick to 50-1, and use a good quality 2stroke oil.
phill
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