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25 July 2014, 11:42
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Town: NSW
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Well the quicksilver sold, the zodiac wants minimum $2500GPB equivalent, but the aerotec has dropped his minimum for me to $1400GBP, which includes a nice trailer and a 2006 30hp yam, which is worth nearly the $1400GBP alone.
I know the 380 is no good for fishing, but for freediving surely they are as good as any?
The other option is a lancer (made in NZ) which is a hypalon SIB, but is a 91 and a 15hp 91 merc for exactly the same price as the 2006 aerotec and 30hp.
So the choice is, 2006 aerotec with 2006 30hp and trailer OR
1991 Lancer 3.7m inflatable keel and 91 15hp merc.
Which way would you go?
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25 July 2014, 11:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
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....but the aerotec has dropped his minimum for me to $1400GBP, which includes a nice trailer and a 2006 30hp yam, which is worth nearly the $1400GBP alone....
Which way would you go?
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Strewth! Bite his hand off!
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25 July 2014, 12:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
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I would have bought the Aerotec 2 months ago! Amazed it's still available 😎
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25 July 2014, 20:29
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Country: UK - England
Town: teesside
Boat name: magic
Make: humber 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: mariner 115
MMSI: 232012453
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aerotec with a 30 2 stroke for that money just check everythings still glued together and buy it
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27 July 2014, 07:37
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went and looked today. glue looks good, transom seems solid with a little patch about 50c size of the black paint/plastic off and looking like if i untreated could be a spot for rot in a few years, but its on the top.
outboard ran sweet once started, had some issues starting from cold, but owner said he hadnt used it in a long time so i suspected dirty fuel. started on 6th pull, the started 1st pull every time after.
trailer looks rust free.
the only issue being the floor, its got a fair few patches (6) and a slow leak in one side which they havnt bothered sorting yet. How much structural rigidity is the floor, will it sink if one side isnt up to spec pressure at the end of the day etc?
Pontoons had no patches and no sign of wear.
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27 July 2014, 08:06
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Town: teesside
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the floor on any airdeck is very important even a few psi down in pressure is noticeable on the water .
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27 July 2014, 08:33
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Whats a new floor cost?
Also is a M (medium) size shaft problematic for a 380?
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27 July 2014, 09:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: teesside
Boat name: magic
Make: humber 5.5
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Engine: mariner 115
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possibly as with a shortshaft people often use a block of wood to raise the outboard higher on the transom to stop water splashing over the transom when underway (apparently common problem on aerotec 380) so a longer shaft outboard may exaggerate the problem
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27 July 2014, 09:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: St Helens
Boat name: Wine Down
Make: Maxum
Length: 8m +
Engine: Inboard
Join Date: Apr 2012
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As beerbelly said, floor pressure is critical for good performance, but even if both sides of the floor are flat, it wont sink.
New floor is expensive, but repairs are straight forward as long as you can get to the damage. Standard glue is strong enough, just make the patch slightly bigger than normal.
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27 July 2014, 09:19
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The problem is one of the holes I think is on a curve at the back of the floor, that curves toward the middle.
Is the aerotec only 4 chambers, i thought there was 1 in the bow and 2 at the sides? The website says only 4.
What about using that liquid liner stuff you poor into a tuber and it lines it from the inside?
When you say expensive, like half the price of the boat to replace the floor?
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27 July 2014, 09:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by SpearRib
The problem is one of the holes I think is on a curve at the back of the floor, that curves toward the middle.
Is the aerotec only 4 chambers, i thought there was 1 in the bow and 2 at the sides? The website says only 4.
What about using that liquid liner stuff you poor into a tuber and it lines it from the inside?
When you say expensive, like half the price of the boat to replace the floor?
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If you use liquid sealer in the floor it will reck it, Nasher did a very good repair on his air floor
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27 July 2014, 09:48
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yeah i read nashers thread. mines a little more patched and munted than his. he needs to write a step by step floor repair guide hehe.
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27 July 2014, 10:17
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Town: St Helens
Boat name: Wine Down
Make: Maxum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SpearRib
The problem is one of the holes I think is on a curve at the back of the floor, that curves toward the middle.
Is the aerotec only 4 chambers, i thought there was 1 in the bow and 2 at the sides? The website says only 4.
What about using that liquid liner stuff you poor into a tuber and it lines it from the inside?
When you say expensive, like half the price of the boat to replace the floor?
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I have just priced up a new floor for my Futura Mk3 at £1500 !!
Even if its on the curve, as long as you can see it, its an easy fix. The liquid PVC stuff does work as well, but I'm not a big fan.
My FR has 1 or 2 repairs lol, but it holds air perfectly.
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27 July 2014, 11:27
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flap that, the boat, trailer and 2006 30hp is less than the new floor lol.
ok i would want to do a good job of it. i have some patch material and glue from my old zodiac, its bostik clear bond. came as a patch kit. will that do? any tips on moulding the patch too the curved area. i think pulling it tight wont work as it will just pull the glue. what about gluing the patch to one side, letting it dry, then pulling it tight over the curve whilst gluing.
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27 July 2014, 11:47
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Town: St Helens
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Your brand names are different to ours, but the glue needs to be PVC 2 part adhesive and it is made by Bostick. Doing the repair in stages is a good way to do it, it allows you to put enough pressure on the patch.
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27 July 2014, 12:29
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its the stuff the local boat shop sells for zodiac patches. its a tube, just one clear glue.
good to know the idea about doing in stages is a good idea. could be tricky finding the holes, but i guess i just do the dishwash soap spray bottle trick?
no patches on the pontoons.
i think its older than i first thought. maybe early 90s hull.
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27 July 2014, 13:08
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Quote:
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its the stuff the local boat shop sells for zodiac patches. its a tube, just one clear glue.
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Single part glue should only be used for short term emergency repairs, it wont hold a floor patch for long.
Everywhere I have seen the 2 part glue, its in the same packaging, just different brand and graphics. This is what it looks like.
etc.
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28 July 2014, 07:48
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Thanks for that.
I know the transom was reglued professionally a year ago.
Damn Zodiac PVC lasts a long time.
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