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19 May 2014, 04:58
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Town: NSW
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30hp too much for aerotec 380?
Seen a local aerotec with a 2010 30hp merc on it, is that bad news for the transom only being rated to 25hp?
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19 May 2014, 16:46
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Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
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30 HP engines are usually same detuned 25 HP versions on most modern engine brands, same size and weight, so not really an issue.
Just inflate all air chambers to factory stated working presssure to avoid transom ungluing & stress issues if liking doing extreme boating. If scary ride, you can always throttle less or limit the throttle range internally.
BTW, same weight on both 25/30, 2 & 4 strokes engines.
Happy Boating
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21 June 2014, 09:32
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This guy is getting desperate to sell.
2006 30hp, 2005 aerotec 380, 2005 trailer (with good suspension).
he is now dropped the price to $1400 GPP.
I know this isnt the ideal fishing diving boat, but darn thats cheap, considering its in excellent condition.
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21 June 2014, 16:31
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Buy it then, I've had no problems fishing from the Bombard. You can always swop motor or boat later if you find something more suitable.
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22 June 2014, 05:40
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Is that a good price generally speaking?
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22 June 2014, 11:13
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Is that a good price generally speaking?
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but darn thats cheap, considering its in excellent condition.
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An object is only worth what some one is prepared to pay for it. At the end of the day it's you who has to decide if something is worth the money.
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22 June 2014, 11:18
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yeah cheers, thats really intellectual and all but i was hoping to get an idea from others who have bought one used what the going rate has been.
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22 June 2014, 12:21
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Stirling
Boat name: The Gurnard
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 4m +
Engine: mariner 25hp 2s
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Hi SpearRib
Im with Stray .. only you know what is a bargain to yourself ... and you said "That's darn cheap" so not sure why you are asking ?
You know the aussie market better than most on this forum.. so go by your own experience. You have been looking for a while so should know cost by now ?
Sorry if that reply is not intellectual enough
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22 June 2014, 13:25
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Thank you Gurnard, fortunately the 12 Oclock outage prevented my reply being posted; it wasn't as politely worded as yours.
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23 June 2014, 00:49
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no need to be defensive/precious i was being sincerely complimentary by saying intellectual as thats the flip side of looking at it, which most wouldnt. most want to know what others pay for items.
so im also asking what they generally sell for as that "market" value is also as important as what "I" think its worth.
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23 June 2014, 10:28
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so I'm also asking what they generally sell for as that "market" value is also as important as what "I" think its worth.
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Final reply; There is no "universal market" value.
Brand new in the UK the Bombard, Outboard and trailer would cost about £6k to buy new today, so somewhere around £2k is what I'd be looking to pay for an 8 year old very good condition outfit. ( others might think more or think less)
In the USA I'd probably be paying $6k new, $2k used, as these things tend to be cheaper there.
I've no idea what such a package would cost new In Australia, or it's resale value. You live there, you've been looking for an outfit for some time, you should be telling me.
Finally if you are making a joke use the Smilies so everyone knows.
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23 June 2014, 10:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: St Helens
Boat name: Wine Down
Make: Maxum
Length: 8m +
Engine: Inboard
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Most of the members on the site are UK based, our experience of values is irrelevant to your geographical location.
However if the rig was in the UK it would be priced around £2-3000, with the biggest chunk being the engine.
Individual values:
Aerotech: £600 -£1000
Trailer: £200 -£400
Engine: £1000-£2000 (Its an odd engine for sibs, 4 stroke and short shaft and is too heavy to be transportable)
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24 June 2014, 08:36
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i very rarely locally see 380s sold where i am at or futuras, mostly used cheapo imports like promarines etc.
thanks landlocked for answering the question. that gives me something to go off.
based on that both seem to be a fair price. the 380 would be much easier to transport when we cant trail a boat, but the flip side it wont be as structural or easy to use for spearing etc. the main thing that concerns me with the 380 is the engine, ill take a compression tester with me and if all looks good ill likely buy it.
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24 June 2014, 08:53
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Town: teesside
Boat name: magic
Make: humber 5.5
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i would be more concerned with the weight of a 30 four stroke on a 3.8 sib if your using it on your own .mine has a 25 two stroke and suffers bad porpoising on anything but flat water and im thinking my outboards too heavy for the boats length its ok with my mrs sat in the bow but a little scary if im on my own . if your going out with a few on board it probably wont be an issue for you
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24 June 2014, 09:27
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nah the 380 has a 2 stroke 30.
im sure there are things I could do with glue and grails type products to improve its fish ability, like a combined rocket launcher and bait board at the back.
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03 July 2014, 09:58
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Country: Australia
Town: Sydney
Boat name: Lunasea
Make: Ribtec 890SX
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yamaha ME 421STI x 2
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How did you go with the RIB? I am in Sydney and it sounds pretty cheap for our market if it's in good condition.
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06 July 2014, 06:51
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hi there Kub, which RIB were you referring to?
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06 July 2014, 10:07
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Town: Sydney
Boat name: Lunasea
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I was talking about the Aerotec. I The 30hp has to be worth $1500 to $2000 on its own and a registered trailer at least $500 and then the boat has to be worth something.
Of course everything has to do with condition.
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06 July 2014, 12:57
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yeah thats what id thought, same with the zodiac, but seems the folk on here dont see the value in used 380s or futuras.
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07 July 2014, 17:29
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,998
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SpearRib,
You can always make a hostile offer after having a close look at the whole package. What could be expensive for you could be cheap to others willing to pay the full price. If in mint cond, don't take to long to buy it as you could lose rope and goat..
Happy Boating
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