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04 May 2016, 12:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Maidstone
Boat name: na
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard 25p 2stroke
Join Date: May 2014
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Originally Posted by Stigomery
I'm surprised you stuck with it, I think I'd have been off running after the first couple of boats... Hope you enjoy her in the water when you finally get there!
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I was very reluctant after the first two but Bombard promised me an absolutely perfect boat 3rd time round.....
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04 May 2016, 13:20
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,881
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So so disappointing to hear of this attitude from "Bombard". True indeed that dealers should have inspected and rejected faulty boats at this price level but pretty telling Bombard are happy that dealers should be catching the problem ones... have they never heard of factory quality control?
I bought mine last year during the Zodiac administration period so when it was found to need a new floor had to wait for production to restart. During this period my dealer kept constantly telling me Zodiac were on the case and determined to turn things around and regain their reputation as makers of quality SIBs.
I think those words were somewhat hollow with what you've experienced.
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04 May 2016, 13:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Maidstone
Boat name: na
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard 25p 2stroke
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 219
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Originally Posted by Fenlander
So so disappointing to hear of this attitude from "Bombard". True indeed that dealers should have inspected and rejected faulty boats at this price level but pretty telling Bombard are happy that dealers should be catching the problem ones... have they never heard of factory quality control?
I bought mine last year during the Zodiac administration period so when it was found to need a new floor had to wait for production to restart. During this period my dealer kept constantly telling me Zodiac were on the case and determined to turn things around and regain their reputation as makers of quality SIBs.
I think those words were somewhat hollow with what you've experienced.
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Exactly how I feel !
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04 May 2016, 15:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mar 60/20/3.5/Hon2.3
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,125
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Originally Posted by SeanKent
Sorry, I can see how you fixed them in the picture, did you buy the washer with the two holes already there ?
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Sean,
Washers were plain M8 x 30mm A4 ss. I drilled two c/sunk holes, set on silicone and fixed with No4 x 13mm A4 ss c/sunk self tapping screws.
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04 May 2016, 20:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,525
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Originally Posted by Fenlander
Now then Jeff what mischief are you planning?
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No just I got 24knts the other day me big lad full tank and all my kit she was a bit skittish not a problem but I was well happy a good comfy ride at 12 knots in the rough solid stable and a dry ride just a compare against the aerotec as with a twenty similar weight wanted to see how similar they perform.hopefully get out Thursday & Friday to do some more tests carrying more fuel.
Cheers
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04 May 2016, 20:54
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Member
Country: USA
Town: S. Carolina
Boat name: D560
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: 2016 Merc 115hp CT
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,277
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Originally Posted by Fenlander
So so disappointing to hear of this attitude from "Bombard". True indeed that dealers should have inspected and rejected faulty boats at this price level but pretty telling Bombard are happy that dealers should be catching the problem ones... have they never heard of factory quality control?
I bought mine last year during the Zodiac administration period so when it was found to need a new floor had to wait for production to restart. During this period my dealer kept constantly telling me Zodiac were on the case and determined to turn things around and regain their reputation as makers of quality SIBs.
I think those words were somewhat hollow with what you've experienced.
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Zodiac used to do a pre-delivery checklist with their new boats that I used to throw away...never had time to check through the 6 billion items they wanted the dealer to check off, as I was too busy running repairs. But, there was an expectation of the dealer to be the last line of defense against quality problems.
Then again, in the US market, we also would have just slapped a patch on, added a symmetrical d-ring over the patch on both sides to make it look factory, and called it a free upgrade (Because who is seriously going to complain about more d-rings? I love a lot of d-rings on my boats). But then again, I also don't consider that crease to be a defect, nor is it delamination (the coating is still adhered to the support cloth just fine).
Sadly, we don't get Aerotecs here. They sell like crap. Everyone wants 5.5 and 6.5 meter RIBs, if they want an inflatable.
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05 May 2016, 00:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Maidstone
Boat name: na
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard 25p 2stroke
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 219
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Originally Posted by office888
Zodiac used to do a pre-delivery checklist with their new boats that I used to throw away...never had time to check through the 6 billion items they wanted the dealer to check off, as I was too busy running repairs. But, there was an expectation of the dealer to be the last line of defense against quality problems.
Then again, in the US market, we also would have just slapped a patch on, added a symmetrical d-ring over the patch on both sides to make it look factory, and called it a free upgrade (Because who is seriously going to complain about more d-rings? I love a lot of d-rings on my boats). But then again, I also don't consider that crease to be a defect, nor is it delamination (the coating is still adhered to the support cloth just fine).
Sadly, we don't get Aerotecs here. They sell like crap. Everyone wants 5.5 and 6.5 meter RIBs, if they want an inflatable.
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I wouldn't want loads of d-rings. I'd either want it stock from the factory or I'd add d-rings where I wanted them. I wouldn't accept a new boat that way but that's just me. Maybe I'm fussy.
Creases are fine, would expect that, particularly when new and having been boxed up tight. A tear in the outer layer with a dirty glue mark around it wasn't, in the same way I rejected a patched boat.
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06 May 2016, 17:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Maidstone
Boat name: na
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard 25p 2stroke
Join Date: May 2014
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I went to give the aerotec a try this afternoon, didn't have much time left with tides by the time I got out though. Bravo pump I bought when I first bought ab aerotec wouldn't kick in to HP mode :-( thought I'd try the footpump but the Bravo gauge that came with the boot doesn't seem to work :-( with tide against me I decided to call it a day, seem to be having terrible luck boating!
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06 May 2016, 18:06
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Member
Country: USA
Town: S. Carolina
Boat name: D560
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: 2016 Merc 115hp CT
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,277
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Originally Posted by SeanKent
I went to give the aerotec a try this afternoon, didn't have much time left with tides by the time I got out though. Bravo pump I bought when I first bought ab aerotec wouldn't kick in to HP mode :-( thought I'd try the footpump but the Bravo gauge that came with the boot doesn't seem to work :-( with tide against me I decided to call it a day, seem to be having terrible luck boating!
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Are you sure the pressure was not simply high enough to activate it and not high enough to register on the gauge?
Turn the pump on, then put your thumb over the tip. You should hear it cross over for a moment, then shut off.
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06 May 2016, 18:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Maidstone
Boat name: na
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard 25p 2stroke
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 219
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Originally Posted by office888
Are you sure the pressure was not simply high enough to activate it and not high enough to register on the gauge?
Turn the pump on, then put your thumb over the tip. You should hear it cross over for a moment, then shut off.
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It did activate for a bit and then cut out, I've tried putting my finger over the hole but it won't cut back in
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06 May 2016, 18:38
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Country: USA
Town: S. Carolina
Boat name: D560
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: 2016 Merc 115hp CT
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Originally Posted by SeanKent
It did activate for a bit and then cut out, I've tried putting my finger over the hole but it won't cut back in
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Try pressing the "ON" button and holding it for about 3-5 seconds. Also, are you using the CL16 coupler on the tip of the hose / on the gauge?
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06 May 2016, 18:40
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#32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Maidstone
Boat name: na
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard 25p 2stroke
Join Date: May 2014
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Guess it's possible with the gauge, hopefully I'll try again tomorrow when I have more time, I'll also take the spare gauge zodiac left with me.
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06 May 2016, 19:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Maidstone
Boat name: na
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard 25p 2stroke
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 219
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Quote:
Originally Posted by office888
Try pressing the "ON" button and holding it for about 3-5 seconds. Also, are you using the CL16 coupler on the tip of the hose / on the gauge?
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I used the coupler that came with the boats footpump as these (there's one for floor and one for tubes) seem to be a perfect fit
I'll try holding the on button
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