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17 August 2011, 14:14
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6hp outboard query
hi, am looking for a bit of advice please ...
I am considering buying a 6hp outboard, either a Suzuki or a Mariner. The Suzuki has an inbuilt petrol tank, the Mariner does not, and as I'm about to be a newbie to boating, I don't have the experience to decide between the 2 engines. I would welcome advice and opinions please to help decide, or is it more a case of personal choice and cost??
Many thanks
Mark
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17 August 2011, 14:56
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Having the option is nice. For example, someone with a 2.7m ( ) might appreciate being able to do short trips without a big brute of a tank taking up deck space. You could then carry a small container of fuel as a reserve, e.g. a camping fuel bottle.
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17 August 2011, 15:19
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thanks willk. by the way, I kept dithering about going solid floor or airdeck, but your feedback regarding your own airdeck has steered me more in the airdeck direction now I like the upsides to an airdeck, and I suspect the boat will be easier and quicker to use on those occasions when I go out on my own. (fishing).. cheers, Mark
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17 August 2011, 15:39
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I should clarify somewhat - some engines have a internal tank AND a fitting for an external - I'm not sure how many there are in current ranges. To give you some idea of usage, my 9.8 typically burns about 5-6 litres during a busy day on the water. Not much, but several refills on a 1.1 litre engine.
I find my SIB fine for solo fishing, but passersby tend to have a right old larf at me - I guess I look like a garden ornament...
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17 August 2011, 16:21
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Its probably down to personal choice.. id personally go for an external as i know from the 4hp internal i had, that i had to carry spare cans of fuel anyway for a full day out. If the engines are brand new, it'll be pick whatever takes your fancy Though if second hand, id probably just look for the best condition one
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18 August 2011, 11:11
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I should clarify somewhat - some engines have a internal tank AND a fitting for an external
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Personally, i would only buy an engine with an internal tank IF it had a fitting for external as well.
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18 August 2011, 11:23
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If this for going to sea then it has to be an external tank to give the reserve capacity for a trip and it's so much easier to see how much you have left. Bending over an integral tank outboard in a chop to check fuel level or refill from a can is not a good experience.
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18 August 2011, 13:32
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Something else to consider. I've always used external tank, don't fancy having motor full of petrol in the garage, can always drain external into car with a funnel - 4 strokes only though !
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18 August 2011, 15:26
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appreciate the feedback guys, thanks. My thoughts were that the internal tank would be useful when on a river, but if at sea I'd use a small external tank as backup (the engine does have facility for connection to an external tank also). A negative though, I suppose, is transporting an engine with petrol in it back home after boating (the plan is to leave home with it empty and fill at my destination). I suppose I could siphon it empty after boating?
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18 August 2011, 17:19
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Originally Posted by general123
thanks willk. by the way, I kept dithering about going solid floor or airdeck, but your feedback regarding your own airdeck has steered me more in the airdeck direction now I like the upsides to an airdeck, and I suspect the boat will be easier and quicker to use on those occasions when I go out on my own. (fishing).. cheers, Mark
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Fishing off one i would recomend a hard deck,somewhere hard to place your weight and hooks,bad enough with soft tubes and a soft floor,no way i would.
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18 August 2011, 17:36
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For fishing (and I doubt I'll be what one calls a serious fisherman), I was planning to plonk a piece of board or similar on the floor, and put something over the relevant part of the tube, such as old rug. Maybe that's naive
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18 August 2011, 18:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
I find my SIB fine for solo fishing, but passersby tend to have a right old larf at me - I guess I look like a garden ornament...
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You're only aware of it when in the SIB ?
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Originally Posted by Stippolyte
Something else to consider. I've always used external tank, don't fancy having motor full of petrol in the garage, can always drain external into car with a funnel - 4 strokes only though !
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Not sure what your worry about the motor full of fuel in the garage is (apart from it slowly going off). Turning a 4 stroke over to get fuel out the top is asking for sump oil in the cylinders I would think. Not sure if I jiggle syphon is practical at that scale but you should be able to rig something up with a modified fuel pump primer bulb and hose for the volumes involved [likewise if someone only has an internal tank and needs a "safe" way to refill at sea - it won't be automagic but it should work.
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I was planning to plonk a piece of board or similar on the floor, and put something over the relevant part of the tube, such as old rug. Maybe that's naive
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Someone on here uses some lino on a roll (with I think a batten to keep it all tidy - might even be Willk (if not he probably has the thread at his fingertips!)
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18 August 2011, 20:26
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The New Mercury/Mariner 6hp now has internal fuel tank.
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18 August 2011, 20:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
but passersby tend to have a right old larf at me - I guess I look like a garden ornament...
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Originally Posted by Polwart
You're only aware of it when in the SIB ?
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I do find that fellow seafarers tend to treat me with a little more sobriety when I'm putting 600hp down through 10 meters of military grey
I could get to like that....
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18 August 2011, 20:40
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Quote:
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I do find that fellow seafarers tend to treat me with a little more sobriety when I'm putting 600hp down through 10 meters of military grey
I could get to like that....
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You just can't hear it over the roar! You should have bought a Honda BF2 for T/T TBD you'd be deaf and never notice everyone else
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