A frame for my SIB

[Lee1]

Wanted an A frame to mount some lights and also because the fishing rods jump around in the holders.

2 stainless steel fishing rod holders bolted to the transom.
2 x 40mm waste pipe.
2 x 40mm blue 90* car radiator hose connectors.
Battery power Marine main white light.
Battery power port and starboard lights (although only a single white light is required for this size boat) (I will upgrade these for better battery versions when I mod some a white Cat eye light to green by changing the LED's)
White and blue lights on the top bar for low level inside boat illumination.
Cat eye high power cycle front light (battery power) used for a forward spot light (I will fit another one so there is a pair)
Velcro straps on one pole to secure a short fishing rod.
And of course the ensign.
I may fit an extension VHF aerial on the top bar for better FM radio reception and VHF range.

I think the bar is s little high? Am I right? I'm thinking to cut another 6 inches off it. . .

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[Xk59D]

Since you asked, looks naff, single pole will look better imo with combi light.

[Lee1]

Did have a single Pole for light and flag but the rod holders are rubbish I had to tie in the rod to the holder, at least now I can hold the rod tight on one pole.
If I was going to keep the boat I would have used 40mm stainless tube but won't get that money back when I flip the boat on. This whole set up, including, flag and lights was pocket money at just over £50
It needs shortening I think. . . . that's what makes it look a bit naff I agree.

[Lee1]

Took a further 9 inches off. . . That's better and still heigh enough for lights to be seen if I'm sitting in the tube

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[Lee1]

Moved the main light to its side mounting rather than its bottom, looks better, and moved the 2 boat interior lights next to each other until I get the other Cat eye spotlight, it just took some tweaking, I'm happy with it now, I might paint the 90* joins the same colour of the transom if I can find the paint lol, from the pic of them before they arrived, they looked darker than they are and almost looked the same as the transom blue, they will probably fad somewhat anyway
Transom A frame done! £50 and an hour! My boys will love night fishing this summer!


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[Xk59D]

What has this got to do with rod holders? Maybe I'm missing seeing them on the A frame?

I can see what you are doing but first time someone grabs onto it (and someone will) they are in the wet stuff, I would remove it completely and buy better rod holders with a single light pole on the transom.

Don't waste money on stainless, keep it in the piggy bank for the next boat and enjoy what you have mean time as the cheap days out will soon go away

[mm289]

Interesting idea, could you use wheel mounts instead of the rod tubes and then set up a way to swap out the wheels for the A frame - maybe use aluminium rather than stainless to keep weight and cost down?

(I know you have done it in plastic, just thinking about if you did want to do a more permanent solution.....

Cheers,

MM

[Pikey Dave]

Where's the SSR number?

[Lee1]

I'm thinking I should of done it in stainless but one of the reasons I didn't is because people will be grabbing the poles, these poles will flex, the stainless steel tubes would not

I will be carrying one short sea rod and that one will be held on the tube without the flag by the Velcro straps on there, when the fishing rod was put in the short holder (that the tubes are now in) they would bounce out the holders on the plane and swing around everywhere now the one rod I will be taking out will be held tight on the tube
And I carry a pair of pen rods in the fishing box

[Max...]

It's different - kind of Captain Pugwash meets Heath Robinson!

Not sure why but it conjures up this sort of image in my mind

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Max...

It's different - kind of Captain Pugwash meets Heath Robinson!

I was thinking more, Blue Peter meets Rogue Traders[emoji57]

[Lee1]

I will be safe and legal out at night, better than just a head torch, might crome paint the tubes for some shine.

[Fenlander]

>>> these poles will flex, the stainless steel tubes would not

And you think that's a good thing? Anyone in a situation where they took these tubes as something to steady themselves on could bend 40mm waste double with ease and go overboard into the prop.

We all have different needs/interests with our sibbing but some of your recent ideas look like forum wind ups... verging into unwise if not dangerous territory and I hope newbies reading don't follow them. Such mods may just be ok for blasting up the river annoying wildlife and other river users alike but they have no place on the sea if you actually want to go anywhere.

[Max...]

Originally Posted by Fenlander

>>> these poles will flex, the stainless steel tubes would not

And you think that's a good thing? Anyone in a situation where they took these tubes as something to steady themselves on could bend 40mm waste double with ease and go overboard into the prop.

We all have different needs/interests with our sibbing but some of your recent ideas look like forum wind ups... verging into unwise if not dangerous territory and I hope newbies reading don't follow them. Such mods may just be ok for blasting up the river annoying wildlife and other river users alike but they have no place on the sea if you actually want to go anywhere.

Been waiting for that from Fenlander, a man can only take so much...!

Combine this agglomeration of more plastic piping than an average plumbers trade show with the bungee rope idea in your other topic and you're a modern environmental disaster waiting to happen!

[Lee1]

We will see about my kinetic ringo!, happy with the lights, good enough for now throw from the single Cat eye spot light, added a further red light lower down the pole for internal boat low level use light that will retain my night vision lol. All pulls apart in seconds, lights go in the peli case, poles in a tent pole bag and it all goes in the back of the 4x4 with the SIB and outboards for free beach and river launching anytime anywhere

I will get some mountain bike torch holders so I can mount a pair of solarforce 1000 lumen natural torches instead of Cat eye front mountain bike lights. That pair on full power will give me the same throw as a cars full beam on a single 3amp 18650

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[Xk59D]

I'd fire some wheels at it and take it to Tesco, taking the bag for life to the next level, trolley for life is a game changer. I might actually go shopping if it was one of these!

[Lee1]

Nice throw from that single Cat eye in the pitch black, photo doesn't show true illumination, gate is about 20meters, back fence is about 70 meters and is clearly visible to the naked eye.

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[boristhebold]

It looks like an accident waiting to happen, far too flimsy, the sea is unforgiving and you can never expect how people will act. Also the light set up I dont think you have thought about the legalities of such, there are rules around lights. The nav lights port and starboard dont look like they are sectored so could confuse other boaters at night. Also adding an extra red light is going to confuse people, plus the white and red deck lights placed high.

I think what would have been better is takle two issues seperately, one the rod holders and two lights, fit a sturdier rod holder and for lights use a standard white light on a pole, do you really need port and starboard lights on a boat that size ? if so then a tri light on a pole. for get the forward spot light as often they just deminish your night vision. in terms of deck lights use a head torch or simply a couple of small lights at deck level.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by boristhebold

..........the sea.......

I don't think that will be an issue[emoji57]

[Lee1]

Port and starboard lights only for river use, the second red light is on the right side and for use when anchored night fishing