Advice please,which outboard

[PeteH]

Which outboard...?
After being out of the scene for about 3 years ive decided
To get back into some sibbing.
I've just about to get my hands on a honwave 3.2 air deck.
Now the boat is going to be portable, either car topped or
Completely deflated regularly after use...
I now need an engine, previously I had a yam 4hp on a 3m
Which was easy manageable to carry from the car to the boat(down slip),
And performed pretty well to.
So what would be a well suited ob for the 3.2..? I have weight on my mind and
I'm not really wanting to lug a huge lump about but would like to have some performance .
Most on board is 2 adults and some kit (anchor) etc etc
I intend to go to sea and fish in it so tides may be a factor with size...
Basically I been offered a yam 6 it's about 10 year old but from what I have been told
It's a twin cylinder and I'm again guessing that would be dead heavy..
Sorry for wittering on your advice is most welcome.
Thanks Pete

[Max...]

Tohatsu 9.8 2 stroke, simple as that, wins on every criteria you specify in the OP.

[Boats&Outboards]

I was going to say the same, obviously not influenced by the fact we have one for sale right now. 2006 model priced £795

Also have 2008 Mercury 9.9hp 4 stroke, priced £995

Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

[Fenlander]

Tohatsu 9.8, Tohatsu 9.8, Tohatsu 9.8, Tohatsu 9.8... as they said!

Buy Peter's before he realises he could give it a good polish, take some crisp photos and sell on ebay for £200 more.

[Boats&Outboards]

It'll need more than a polish! The Tohatsu I have would need a leg re-spray done to a better standard in order to turn it over for real value.

The Merc may polish up though.

Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

[clydeoutboards]

Hi

I would not want to lug any 2 cylinder engine on and off any boat every day but then if you dont you will not get the max performance out of it. The tohatsu 9.8 is a v good engine and a bad leg spray would not put me off.

So your choice is ok speed 5hp 2 stroke vs is better speed heavier engine and as that is a personal one it is wrong for me to show preference as both will work.

Dave

[Max...]

Taking the OP into account though (2 adults + kit + 'would like to have some performance' + tidal use) means a 5 or 6 hp would not give the required power...

[clydeoutboards]

sorry I disagree. I get on fine with me the mrs and the dog on the west coast of scotland with a honda 5hp 4 stroke in a honwave and i am 20 stone and it is more than fine. I just wish it was lighter hence why I would go with a 2 stroke not a 4.

Dave

[willk]

While PeteH said he was concerned about "performance", he didn't actually say that a requirement was to plane - after all, he wasn't likely to have been planing much with his previous rig.

This means the debate is kinda pointless (and we can't have that on RIBnet, can we? ) until we know what he really wants. I'm currently reading it as he's concerned about making headway against wind and tide, as opposed to wanting to plane. That and the weight of the lump.

I hope I'm wrong (again) because then I can recommend the Tohatsu 9.8 2T

PeteH, be aware that the Toohotsue weighs 26kg
The old 2 stroke Yammie 8Hp weighs 27kg, I think the 6Hp the same block and therefore same weight?
There is some relevant debate on this old thread of mine.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by willk

he's concerned about making headway against wine and tide.

In which case he needs to specify whether his preference is red or white. Personally I'd stick a nice Penfolds Bin 28 on the back, failing that, a Wakefield 2006 Shiraz Whatever you do, stay away from the Italian stuff, or it will only go backwards.

[Boats&Outboards]

PETE I've replied to your PM & email.

A 5hp will weigh 22kgs, so your getting double the power for nowhere near double the weight, only 4kgs or so, which in reality is what 4 litres of fuel would weigh. So if the 5hp has an integral tank and say 2 litres of fuel it will be almost the same! The Tohatsu (or any larger engine) will have an external tank so you can carry it separately, splitting the weight.

The Yam 6hp CMH model is 27 Kgs.

The 2008 Merc 9.9 4 stroke we have is 38 kgs. That's a lot for most to carry. You have to really want the benefits of 4 stroke (noise, ease of use, fuel efficiency) to go that route. I'd suggest it's not ideal as you have storage issues too then.

Your not limited to choosing between my two only though! Plenty out there to run with.

Other options include dolly wheels, trailering (although still need to remove motor to tow) or a pair of paddles

If your local to Plymouth your welcome to give it a try! You can try both the Tohatsu & the Mercury 4 Stroke to consider the comparisons. Bring the Yam and try that too.

Or use YouTube

Here's some examples. None are mine!

Quicksilver 3.1 + Yam 6hp 4 stroke - looks like 2 persons (1adult 1 unknown)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqRbn...e_gdata_player

West Coast Compact 3.1 + Merc 9.9 4 stroke (same as mine) - 1 Adult

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrYx1...e_gdata_player

Avon 3.1m + Yam 9.9hp 2 Stroke (slightly heavier than my Tohatsu at 32kgs) + 1 Adult

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGFXW...e_gdata_player

3.1m + Tohatsu 9.8 (same engine as mine) + 1 adult

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWlfC...e_gdata_player

Zodiac 3.4 + Tohatsu 6hp 4 stroke + 1 Adult - seems to struggle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-UJT...e_gdata_player

Hope that helps. Whichever way you go, enjoy but wear your kill cord! Or this could be you slooping out at 1min 06, if your that lucky...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZo9S...e_gdata_player

Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

[willk]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

In which case he needs to specify whether his preference is red or white. Personally I'd stick a nice Penfolds Bin 28 on the back, failing that, a Wakefield 2006 Shiraz Whatever you do, stay away from the Italian stuff, or it will only go backwards.

Thanks for that dude, I've fixed it for me

I always make good headway against wine. Speaking of Penfolds, I found a pair of Grange 1990 and a lonely looking 707 at the back of the cellar. Must be ready

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by willk

I found a pair of Grange 1990 and a lonely looking 707 at the back of the cellar. Must be ready

Bluddy 'ell! You must be a VERY bad man

[PeteH]

Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

PETE I've replied to your PM & email.

A 5hp will weigh 22kgs, so your getting double the power for nowhere near double the weight, only 4kgs or so, which in reality is what 4 litres of fuel would weigh. So if the 5hp has an integral tank and say 2 litres of fuel it will be almost the same! The Tohatsu (or any larger engine) will have an external tank so you can carry it separately, splitting the weight.

The Yam 6hp CMH model is 27 Kgs.

The 2008 Merc 9.9 4 stroke we have is 38 kgs. That's a lot for most to carry. You have to really want the benefits of 4 stroke (noise, ease of use, fuel efficiency) to go that route. I'd suggest it's not ideal as you have storage issues too then.

Your not limited to choosing between my two only though! Plenty out there to run with.

Other options include dolly wheels, trailering (although still need to remove motor to tow) or a pair of paddles

If your local to Plymouth your welcome to give it a try! You can try both the Tohatsu & the Mercury 4 Stroke to consider the comparisons. Bring the Yam and try that too.

Or use YouTube

Here's some examples. None are mine!

Quicksilver 3.1 + Yam 6hp 4 stroke - looks like 2 persons (1adult 1 unknown)

West Coast Compact 3.1 + Merc 9.9 4 stroke (same as mine) - 1 Adult

Avon 3.1m + Yam 9.9hp 2 Stroke (slightly heavier than my Tohatsu at 32kgs) + 1 Adult

3.1m + Tohatsu 9.8 (same engine as mine) + 1 adult

Zodiac 3.4 + Tohatsu 6hp 4 stroke + 1 Adult - seems to struggle

Hope that helps. Whichever way you go, enjoy but wear your kill cord! Or this could be you slooping out at 1min 06, if your that lucky...

Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

Thanks very much for the input Peter,as you now know my mind is made up,your help is much appreicated...

[willk]

Wotcher gettin' then? You can't ask for help and then leave us in suspense?

[Max...]

Originally Posted by willk

Wotcher gettin' then? You can't ask for help and then leave us in suspense?

This is Ribnet, ask for advice and then bollox to the lot of us - he'll ignore us all and buy a 2.5, a 20 or one of those leccy jobbies!

[willk]

Not this one, I reckon he's out buying Toohotsue paint for the flakey leg that Peter is selling him on that 9.8

[Boats&Outboards]

Pete has decided to buy the Mercury 9.9hp 4 stroke. I've removed it from sale on request.

So the Tohatsu is still here.... Warts n all

Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

[SIBer]

Good luck pete.
That tommyhatsu is a great deal with its own anti theft device - Bargain.

[PeteH]

As stated I went for the mercury,condition and it being a 4stroke (after having one previous) kind of swayed it for me....granted its a touch on the heavy side than the tootoo
Buy I'm a 40 year old and pretty fit so I'll manage just fine I reckon,i went to get the hon wave today and it's a minter never been dipped and for 500 including rule pump and launch trailer it's a bargain.....
Weekend after next,here I come....
Cheers for all the input folks.