Aerotec in the rough stuff

[simonafloat]

Took the aerotec out onto the bar for a play yesterday. Very big waves. I was seriously impressed with it. Didn't find its limit at all. Found my limit though! Next time I'll try and rig up a go pro camera and try to get some footage.. Surfed a few big ones on the way back in.

Simon

[matt h]

Sounds scarily good simon

[Max...]

Sounds awesome, surfing in an Aerotec in a big following sea is the best bit.

[simonafloat]

Originally Posted by Max...

Sounds awesome, surfing in an Aerotec in a big following sea is the best bit.

Actually went out with another surfer to check out some of the surf spots with a view to using the aerotec as a jumping off point. On the ebb there are some stationary waves that look good for longboarding. Some of the following waves we had were breaking off the sandbars, we stayed well ahead on the shoulder but it was a lot of fun. Chucking our weight around in the boat makes a massive difference in the aerotec.

Was thinking though.. IF the boat ever flipped, would two adults on a rope be able to right it? Its not a particularly wide boat, I reckon it'd be doable.

[Max...]

Easy peasy even for one I'm sure. Chuck a rope on the opposite bow rail and pull...then deal with the consequences!

[Poly]

Originally Posted by simonafloat

Was thinking though.. IF the boat ever flipped, would two adults on a rope be able to right it? Its not a particularly wide boat, I reckon it'd be doable.

Probably, but if you are in surf then a good chance you'll be on the shore before you get a chance. A bridle may make it easier. Restarting the engine afterwards might not be so easy.

[simonafloat]

Originally Posted by Poly

Probably, but if you are in surf then a good chance you'll be on the shore before you get a chance. A bridle may make it easier. Restarting the engine afterwards might not be so easy.

... Which brings me to my next question, how to restart a flooded two stroke? I carry spare plugs, tools and a tiny can of wd40 in a tupperware box now. So would removing the plugs then turning the engine over several times and replacing the plugs do the trick? With any luck the kill cord would have stopped the engine before it took a gulp.

[two stroke mick]

The carbs would have to be drained the spark plugs removed and turn the engine over a few times to expel the water from the cylinders. Put it back together and hope it starts. This assumes that the HT system is waterproof. This I am sure is a very simple process on land but maybe a different story at sea.
Tsm

[Poly]

Originally Posted by simonafloat

... Which brings me to my next question, how to restart a flooded two stroke? I carry spare plugs, tools and a tiny can of wd40 in a tupperware box now. So would removing the plugs then turning the engine over several times and replacing the plugs do the trick? With any luck the kill cord would have stopped the engine before it took a gulp.

Have you tried replacing the plugs when afloat? Even on a calm day leaning off the back of a boat its not easy, in conditions where a capsize is likely it will be really hard, especially with no power to keep the boat pointing the right way. In an ideal world you'd drain the carbs too - but there is no way you are fiddling with that tiny screw whilst bouncing around.

[Fenlander]

>>> how to restart a flooded two stroke?

Well... and I'm really not being flippant... for the purposes of leisure use make sure it never ever happens!

[Max...]

Originally Posted by simonafloat

... Which brings me to my next question, how to restart a flooded two stroke? I carry spare plugs, tools and a tiny can of wd40 in a tupperware box now. So would removing the plugs then turning the engine over several times and replacing the plugs do the trick? With any luck the kill cord would have stopped the engine before it took a gulp.

As I posted....then deal with the consequences!

With credit to Whisper, see below (from the Y Class topic) and as posted there, fancy doing that lot rolling about in a F6?!? You need a carb drain too...

[Max...]

And another excuse to post my favourite YT SIB video, incl how to restart...not easy even with two experienced big guys holding it on the shore...

https://youtu.be/2oM4Y3LVGyg

[Maximus]

Was thinking though.. IF the boat ever flipped, would two adults on a rope be able to right it? Its not a particularly wide boat, I reckon it'd be doable.[/QUOTE]

It should be straight forward enough....I flipped my Old Zodiac (with 20hp Blue Band)off Exmouth Sand Bar years ago and even with a non Boater aboard we mangled to right her...although were dead in the water and had a Tow in..A bit of a shock when it happens if your Not wearing a Dry suit!
A long Bow line (Painter- even better two) will help a lot!
The main thing is to get the wind to aid you ( usually Blowing a bit if you flip!) and be coordinated....and don't hang around that first wave of adrenalin is there to be used...it soon gets really Cold even in the Summer months.

[simonafloat]

Originally Posted by Maximus

Was thinking though.. IF the boat ever flipped, would two adults on a rope be able to right it? Its not a particularly wide boat, I reckon it'd be doable.

It should be straight forward enough....I flipped my Old Zodiac (with 20hp Blue Band)off Exmouth Sand Bar years ago and even with a non Boater aboard we mangled to right her...although were dead in the water and had a Tow in..A bit of a shock when it happens if your Not wearing a Dry suit!
A long Bow line (Painter- even better two) will help a lot!
The main thing is to get the wind to aid you ( usually Blowing a bit if you flip!) and be coordinated....and don't hang around that first wave of adrenalin is there to be used...it soon gets really Cold even in the Summer months.[/QUOTE]

We all wear wetsuits when we're at sea. My winter suit is good for several hours in the water, even in January

[matt h]

Never rolled mine at all

https://youtu.be/pY2XxQuqAmc

https://youtu.be/l4e0mF_jhPg

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by simonafloat

It should be straight forward enough....I flipped my Old Zodiac (with 20hp Blue Band)off Exmouth Sand Bar years ago and even with a non Boater aboard we mangled to right her...although were dead in the water and had a Tow in..A bit of a shock when it happens if your Not wearing a Dry suit!
A long Bow line (Painter- even better two) will help a lot!
The main thing is to get the wind to aid you ( usually Blowing a bit if you flip!) and be coordinated....and don't hang around that first wave of adrenalin is there to be used...it soon gets really Cold even in the Summer months.

We all wear wetsuits when we're at sea. My winter suit is good for several hours in the water, even in January[/QUOTE]

IMO without doubt You'd be better off investing in Breathable Dry suits...especially for winter use....Wet suits aren't much good at keeping you warm when it's wet cold and windy on board....they tend to wick away heat..especially when wet.

[jeffstevens763@g]

Yes it's dead easy to right the boat especially if you use the surf/waves to help, will you restart the engine NO and I say that because if conditions are that bad to flip it you will have all on stoping it flipping again. Loose the carb drain and it's all over anyway.

[simonafloat]

Originally Posted by Maximus

We all wear wetsuits when we're at sea. My winter suit is good for several hours in the water, even in January

IMO without doubt You'd be better off investing in Breathable Dry suits...especially for winter use....Wet suits aren't much good at keeping you warm when it's wet cold and windy on board....they tend to wick away heat..especially when wet.[/QUOTE]

I've no doubt that drysuits are lovely and warm. But in my experience a decent (£200+) winter surf wetsuit with a fleece rashvest underneath is pretty good too. I regularly surf in January in anything down to 4C air temps and if they're good enough for sitting on a board for two hours then they'll do for me. Plus they have a lot of float to them. Keeping hands warm is my real problem. I use mittens for surfing but they aren't very dextrous. Neoprene gloves with fingers aren't very warm.

Simon

[jeffstevens763@g]

you can get a dry suit for not much more than 200 squid best thing out IMO

[simonafloat]

Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

you can get a dry suit for not much more than 200 squid best thing out IMO

That's cheaper than I thought!