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18 December 2010, 18:57
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Country: UK - England
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Boat name: FEEFO
Make: Bombard Aerotec 380
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Air pump
Hi I am looking to buy a high pressure air pump to inflate my Bombard Aerotech 380 with the inflatable hull
Ideally one that I can run from the accessory socket of my Discovery 3
Any suggestions and ideas on prices?
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19 December 2010, 00:43
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Originally Posted by Bongy
Hi I am looking to buy a high pressure air pump to inflate my Bombard Aerotech 380 with the inflatable hull
Ideally one that I can run from the accessory socket of my Discovery 3
Any suggestions and ideas on prices?
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Are you sure you need a high pressure pump? I would have thought a high speed low pressure pump (3-4 psi) would be more suitable. The kind used to inflate airbeds etc. You don't want to be sticking tyre pressures (30-50psi) into an inflatable
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19 December 2010, 07:48
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He needs around 10 psi for the floor, which isn't "tyre" pressure but is more than a regular high volume inflator will give.
The Bravo BST 12 HP will do the job for about £150, although the current draw may be too much for a lighter (maybe someone else can confirm?). They also do a more expensive version with a self contained battery.
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19 December 2010, 10:13
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
He needs around 10 psi for the floor, which isn't "tyre" pressure but is more than a regular high volume inflator will give.
The Bravo BST 12 HP will do the job for about £150, although the current draw may be too much for a lighter (maybe someone else can confirm?). They also do a more expensive version with a self contained battery.
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I stand corrected
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19 December 2010, 14:33
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Country: UK - England
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Boat name: Derisher
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I use a bravo pump with in built battery for my 380 bombard and it works really well. I would recommend it, I got mine from ribshop.
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21 December 2010, 23:09
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
The Bravo BST 12 HP will do the job for about £150, although the current draw may be too much for a lighter (maybe someone else can confirm?).
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10 Amps at 12V max draw. Possible with a lighter socket wired for high current. Have to check the socket in question to be sure. I'd also assume that with the max rating at 10 amps, the nominal current draw would be substantially less: 6 to 8 amps or so.
jky
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22 December 2010, 12:20
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thanks everyone for the advise - much appreciated!
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29 December 2010, 15:20
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I have a bst 12hp for my 3.1mtr Quicksilver Air deck Worth every penny! Buy one ASAP!
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01 January 2011, 11:11
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Hi all,
I also have a Bravo superturbo 12 HP pump and can recommend them. Just a couple of points to add:-
1) It's a 2 Stage pump, 1st stage to 300mbar and 2nd up to 8oombar.
2) the non battery pack version clips directly to the car battery, not cigarette lighter
3) Best pump out there in my humble opinion
All the best
Jake
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01 January 2011, 14:41
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as most of the above say, get one of these.
They are Superb, the floor has to be up to 10 psi and this 2 stage pump does it easily
bit of spec for you below.
Quickly inflate dinghies and air cushions up to 800 mbar, air mattresses, etc. Safety features include integrated pressure control and automatic shutdown. The compressor has a capacity of 450 l/min. and the 7 Ah battery provides continuous power for up to 15 minutes. Delivery includes universal adapters and 12 V adapters. Weight 4.8 kg, dimensions: 18 x 28 x 18 cm.
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19 January 2011, 20:17
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Originally Posted by jyasaki
10 Amps at 12V max draw. Possible with a lighter socket wired for high current. Have to check the socket in question to be sure. I'd also assume that with the max rating at 10 amps, the nominal current draw would be substantially less: 6 to 8 amps or so.
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The BST 12 model that inflates up to 11,7 psi is rated at 15-20 amps, wich is too high for regular 12 volt cigar lighter socket. This is why they sale it with "grips" instead of a male 12v adapter.
http://www.scoprega.it/pdf/pompe/pom...ic%20pumps.pdf
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20 January 2011, 16:13
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Fair enough. I stand corrected.
I think I was working off a resellers list of specs.
jky
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31 January 2011, 15:47
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Make: Bombard Aerotec 380
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cheers guys i've just ordered one!
http://www.marinemegastore.com/produ...jump=0&cat_id=
Managed to get an extra 10% off as a first order so £114 all in!
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09 February 2011, 16:48
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Make: Bombard Aerotec 380
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bongy
Hi I am looking to buy a high pressure air pump to inflate my Bombard Aerotech 380 with the inflatable hull
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I just picked up my aerotec 3.8 last Saturday, she's a beauty!
Tried 2 different guages with a foot pump but gauges are next to useless.
has anyone any experience of the bravo 6 stirrup pump + gauge?? Its looking good for 20 odd quid.
http://www.stearns-inflatables.co.uk...pressure-gauge
If the gauge works I'll be happy using one of these.
If none of these types of gauges work then I suppose I will have to get something like the Bravo superturbo 12 HP pump.
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10 February 2011, 07:34
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I haven't tried the Bravo stirrup pump, but I use the Quicksilver version and it does a good job.
It's double action, but you can switch to single action to get the floor up to pressure, and it has a pressure gauge.
Having said that, your boat should really have come with a pressure gauge, but it's quite small so may easily have gone missing. They may be available as a spare, so it's probably worth giving your friendly Avon/Zodiac/Bombard dealer a ring.
Actually, I had a look and Rib Shop sell a gauge that looks very similar and should do the job for you.
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10 February 2011, 09:23
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Originally Posted by squiddy
I just picked up my aerotec 3.8 last Saturday, she's a beauty!
Tried 2 different guages with a foot pump but gauges are next to useless.
has anyone any experience of the bravo 6 stirrup pump + gauge?? Its looking good for 20 odd quid.
http://www.stearns-inflatables.co.uk...pressure-gauge
If the gauge works I'll be happy using one of these.
If none of these types of gauges work then I suppose I will have to get something like the Bravo superturbo 12 HP pump.
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I have bought just about every type of pump & the last & most expensive was a Bravo BST 12 HP & I wish I had just saved my money & bought this one first, for the Bombard it is excellent I tend to use my battery pack/jump starter I have to power it! It will make setting it up a doddal as you can be setting up the boat as the pump dose its job just switching off when it reaches its correct pressure
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10 February 2011, 13:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Kennett
I haven't tried the Bravo stirrup pump, but I use the Quicksilver version and it does a good job.
It's double action, but you can switch to single action to get the floor up to pressure, and it has a pressure gauge.
Having said that, your boat should really have come with a pressure gauge, but it's quite small so may easily have gone missing. They may be available as a spare, so it's probably worth giving your friendly Avon/Zodiac/Bombard dealer a ring.
Actually, I had a look and Rib Shop sell a gauge that looks very similar and should do the job for you.
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John, thanks very much for the info - I did get 2 gauges with boat but neither does very much, if anything. One of them is inline - which I used to check airdeck floor, doesnt go anywhere near 11.3psi with continued pumping so stopped as i didnt want floor to explode on me.
I may be using it wrongly. A pump with integral gauge should work a treat. And if that QS has worked on your aerotec then I shall give it a go!!! Wanted to hear from someone else with aerotec so I am convinced! Only a few squids anyway.
Nick - thanks, I know exactly what you are saying and will certainly get the bling bling superpimp auto pump eventually but just now a manual pump will suit our needs better for the moment. Also i am about to buy the SH HX851E vhf/dcs handheld jobbie anyday now - and thats not cheap along with course fees!!!
cheers guys!
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14 July 2011, 19:28
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Country: Sweden
Make: Bombard Aerotec
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Engine: Evinrude 15 hp -78
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Can you measure the pressure when pumping with the foot pump? What's that gadget called?
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14 July 2011, 19:32
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just buy the pump then buy a sealed lead acid battery min 7.2 amp and charger works out cheaper
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