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25 September 2012, 00:42
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Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
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If the boat feels like the bow is biting into the water you have a wrong angle setting, set at hole so you have brand sticker paralell to water level. If you have an air floor sib, keel, tubes and floor rigidity is a must have.
Bear in mind that air floors needs 10-12 psi to perform as expected specially if boating in cold environments. A standard foot pump can generally inflate to max 4 psi, will depend entirely if you are a light or heavy champ. Better get yourself a nice electric pump or a decent Bravo 9 hand pump that comes with a pressure gauged attached.
Check if you have splash issues at back transom when at plane ?
Happy Sibbing
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25 September 2012, 20:01
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Country: UK - Scotland
Length: 3m +
Engine: Merc 6hp
Join Date: May 2012
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Cheers Loco
Bravo air pump - check
Correct Air pressures before launching 0.25 bar tubes, 0.8 bar floor -check
Angle setting - to be experimented with
Air pressures after launching - to be checked
Helmsman's skill and experience - TBC
The way the weathers going not sure when I'll get the chance to test next.
Cheers
MOTM
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25 September 2012, 20:17
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Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
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Engine: 30T/40T
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Get your pressures correct, no standing on pump stuff. Get it right.
If you have passengers use them as ballast. Conditions, humidity, temperature and mix all affect your power esp at sea level.
If your engine spins well then use the weight in the boat to your advantage and move it until the vessel sings.
You'll know when it's right because it will feel right.
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25 September 2012, 20:22
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Length: 4m +
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er, um...
mister p is Right.
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25 September 2012, 20:26
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Cheers Mr.P
Can you describe that...right feeling?
MOTM
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25 September 2012, 20:28
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Town: LONDON
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You'll know
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25 September 2012, 20:35
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Originally Posted by mister p
You'll know
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'cos you'll be goin' "woohoooo!"
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25 September 2012, 20:43
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Ok........ for somebody that doesn't, and correct me those that do.
Getting "on-the-plane" is that feeling when you have friends and/or your kids in the boat and you've promised them that "it's really good" but they(and you) struggle to get it when the engine is screaming with your bow pointing at the moon when........and just that magical "when", the stern lifts and for no more input from the throttle the boat is gaining speed. It's almost weightless and you feel the need to back off but the ride smooths out. The speed is something that brings an unexpected smile to your face and the wind to your hair. Everybody on board now believes you.......and understands. Did I tell you it was cool or am I actually surprised at how cool this is?
Now you're planing, everybody's laughing and you don't want to stop.
That's planing.
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25 September 2012, 20:55
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Town: LONDON
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Until the fuel thing happens.
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25 September 2012, 21:19
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Length: 3m +
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Mr. P You've described that "feeling" superbly. Now as I understand it I need to find some friends or have some kids. Boy this planing things more involved than I thought.
I'm not even going to ask about the "fuel thing".
Cheers
MOTM
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25 September 2012, 21:48
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Country: UK - England
Town: Nuneaton
Boat name: ribbit
Make: ring
Length: 6m +
Engine: opti 150
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mister p
Ok........ for somebody that doesn't, and correct me those that do.
Getting "on-the-plane" is that feeling when you have friends and/or your kids in the boat and you've promised them that "it's really good" but they(and you) struggle to get it when the engine is screaming with your bow pointing at the moon when........and just that magical "when", the stern lifts and for no more input from the throttle the boat is gaining speed. It's almost weightless and you feel the need to back off but the ride smooths out. The speed is something that brings an unexpected smile to your face and the wind to your hair. Everybody on board now believes you.......and understands. Did I tell you it was cool or am I actually surprised at how cool this is?
Now you're planing, everybody's laughing and you don't want to stop.
That's planing.
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omg i thought it was just me
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25 September 2012, 21:48
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Without friends or kids nobody believes you. But you don't care.
With them you just smile..........because you know that they cared, a lot!
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26 September 2012, 15:30
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Originally Posted by manonthemoon
Correct Air pressures before launching 0.25 bar tubes, 0.8 bar floor -check
Air pressures after launching - to be checked
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After sib is resting for some minutes on water so to give time for pressure to staibilize, you can top to those tubes/keel and air floor perfect stated pressures.
Have used air floor sibs for some time and they need to be top inflated for better water performance, but definiteley not as nice as having wooden or alum panel floor sibs. It's the nature of the beast.
Happy Sibbing
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26 September 2012, 15:59
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Country: UK - England
Town: macclessfield
Boat name: Reach Out
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30hp Tohatsu EFI
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Trip button on jet ski (and many outboards) changes angle of water jet to adjust the pitch of the boat at speed. Bow down for fast turns (trim water jet to point down), trip bow up on straight to give max speed.. In a sib you generally set the trim to what you want with the pin and from day to day use the passengers and your self to trim the boat. But with a 66kG boat (ali floor) and a good 20hP, bow up trim is not my set up on a windy day, top speed is not everything, a safe top speed is .... (so I trim down a little.)
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11 October 2012, 17:59
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Country: USA
Boat name: Classic Mark II C
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15HP Honda
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If you are a heavy champ sitting on side tube will destabilize the sib a bit,
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I'm a heavy guy, and I think I've notcied that. It is much harder for me to get on plane when I'm siitting on the tube, as compared to me being on the floor. What is the reasoning behind this?
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11 October 2012, 18:11
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Country: USA
Boat name: Classic Mark II C
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15HP Honda
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mister p
Ok........ for somebody that doesn't, and correct me those that do.
Getting "on-the-plane" is that feeling when you have friends and/or your kids in the boat and you've promised them that "it's really good" but they(and you) struggle to get it when the engine is screaming with your bow pointing at the moon when........and just that magical "when", the stern lifts and for no more input from the throttle the boat is gaining speed. It's almost weightless and you feel the need to back off but the ride smooths out. The speed is something that brings an unexpected smile to your face and the wind to your hair. Everybody on board now believes you.......and understands. Did I tell you it was cool or am I actually surprised at how cool this is?
Now you're planing, everybody's laughing and you don't want to stop.
That's planing.
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Dude! Well written!!!!
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