Anchor

paramaniac · 23 August 2008, 07:11

Hi all
I'm planning to do a bit of fishing from my Sib, probably off the Norfolk coast.
Can anyone explain which anchor/chain/rope etc I should use?
Where should I attach it on the Zodiac?
Sorry for the numbnut questions, I'm planning to do the power boat level 2 course shortly, but want to go for a little bimble now.
Thanks for any assistance
Dave

codprawn · 23 August 2008, 13:54

Get a small bruce anchor. The Delta is better but the smallest is overkill for a SIB.

It is usually a case of the more chain and rope the better but if it's just for a spot of fishing just use all rope. The bigger the diameter the easier it is to handle.

Attach a short painter to the bow eye and then attach the ancor rope to that but leave some in the boat so you can pull it back in easily.

The folding grapnel is next to useless unless you use it in rocky ground.

paramaniac · 23 August 2008, 14:08

Thanks mate
Sods law that I was given a folding grapnel with the boat then!
I'll have a bit of a google for a Bruce then.

Downhilldai · 23 August 2008, 14:13

I've used a small folding grapnel with a SIB and it's fine

Jono Garton · 23 August 2008, 15:12

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Originally Posted by paramaniac

Thanks mate
Sods law that I was given a folding grapnel with the boat then!
I'll have a bit of a google for a Bruce then.

A folding grapnel is great for a SIB, get your self at least 2m of 6mm chain and 10-20m of cheep 8mm line. You should have an eye on the front of your SIB, this will be the best place to secure it. You may also want a bucket to put the Anchor in when in the boat, this will double up as a bailer if you take on any water.

Don't forget to check the weather and tides and take at least a cheep compass, inshore flare pack and mobile phone with you

Have fun.

Jono

paramaniac · 23 August 2008, 21:14

Thanks fella's, some useful tips there.
I'm desperate to get out on the water, but even more desperate not to get into a drama & need my sorry arse rescued!!

codprawn · 24 August 2008, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

I've used a small folding grapnel with a SIB and it's fine

Take it down to the beach - set it in wet sand and pull - it moves very easily with one hand - and mine was a 7.5kg one which is bigger than most!!!

It really did suprise me just how useless it was.

Then again you only have to look at the size of the flukes to realise that. On rock of course it will grip really well............

Bigmuz7 · 24 August 2008, 00:15

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Take it down to the beach - set it in wet sand and pull - it moves very easily with one hand - and mine was a 7.5kg one which is bigger than most!!!

It really did suprise me just how useless it was.

Then again you only have to look at the size of the flukes to realise that. On rock of course it will grip really well............

Yes Jono.. you sure about that post

Grapnels are great if you have the right bottom, but fook all good if ye dont .. mind you it is easy to stow

m chappelow · 24 August 2008, 18:32

if you do decide to use the folding grapnel type its not a bad idea to wire or bind the locking ring so it wont turn and allow the flukes to fold back it doesent happen on all but on some cheap models or its worn it can fold on the sea bed especially if its starts to drag and bounce and tumble a bit ,think i would go for a danforth delta or bruce though as they will hold on sand or mud better.with 2 or 3 meters of chain then rope .

m chappelow · 24 August 2008, 18:34

sorrrry duplicate

thornbackflound · 26 August 2008, 15:08

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Get a small bruce anchor. The Delta is better but the smallest is overkill for a SIB.

It is usually a case of the more chain and rope the better but if it's just for a spot of fishing just use all rope. The bigger the diameter the easier it is to handle.

Attach a short painter to the bow eye and then attach the ancor rope to that but leave some in the boat so you can pull it back in easily.

The folding grapnel is next to useless unless you use it in rocky ground.

WOULD IT NOT BE BETTER TO HAVE SOME WARP CHAIN,,,,,,,,,,RATHER THEN JUST USE ROPE,,,,,,,,,WHEN FISHING ON MINE I USE 2 METRES OF CHAIN ON ME GRAPNEL ,HOLDS FINE ON SANDY BOTTOMS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,CHAIN LAYS THE ANCHOR DOWN JUST RIGHT

codprawn · 26 August 2008, 22:47

When I tested my 7.5kg grapnel it was with about 200' of rope on a flat beach so the pull was very nearly horizontal. I pulled the anchor out with one hand no matter how well set it was.

Yes chain is much better but the grapnel is so bad that a Bruce etc without chain is better than a grapnel with it.

A 5kg Bruce will hold my 9m RIB in a tide no problem without chain - the 7.5 kg Grapnel with chain dragged like hell.

Downhilldai · 27 August 2008, 00:57

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Originally Posted by codprawn

A 5kg Bruce will hold my 9m RIB in a tide no problem without chain - the 7.5 kg Grapnel with chain dragged like hell.

Strangely, I found the opposite to be the case. It surprises me that my 5kg Bruce anchor with 7m of 7mm chain will drag on occasion with a 5.8m RIB. My old 5kg grapnel has always held really well in the same sandy bottom estuary as CP mentions.

paramaniac · 27 August 2008, 11:28

Thanks for all the personal experiences fella's.
This starting boating lark is starting to cost a few quid!!
I'll give my (free) grapnel a go with the chain & rope & see how it works.
I can always buy a Bruce later.
Cheers
Dave

thornbackflound · 27 August 2008, 11:46

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Originally Posted by paramaniac

Thanks for all the personal experiences fella's.
This starting boating lark is starting to cost a few quid!!
I'll give my (free) grapnel a go with the chain & rope & see how it works.
I can always buy a Bruce later.
Cheers
Dave

Dave you be right there,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ONCE I BROUGHT THE FISH FINDER ,VHF RADIO, FLARES, FLARES ALONE WERE 52 QUID,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AND LOADS OF OTHER BITS ANTI SLIP MATTING 17 QUID A METRE ,SO THAT 3 METRES,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AS HARRY ENFIELD SAID,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOADS OF MONEY

Bigmuz7 · 27 August 2008, 18:26

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Originally Posted by thornbackflound

ONCE I BROUGHT THE FISH FINDER ,VHF RADIO, FLARES, FLARES ALONE WERE 52 QUID,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AND LOADS OF OTHER BITS ANTI SLIP MATTING 17 QUID A METRE ,SO THAT 3 METRES,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AS HARRY ENFIELD SAID,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOADS OF MONEY

OK ,,, YOU CAN STOP SHOUTING NOW

thats better

m chappelow · 27 August 2008, 20:39

another reason why chain is used is that if anchored up for along time ,is to stop the rope chaffing through if anchored near abrasive rocks or and old ship wreck .

thornbackflound · 28 August 2008, 13:48

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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

OK ,,, YOU CAN STOP SHOUTING NOW

thats better

im not ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SHOUTING ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,JUST EASIER FOR ME SOMETIMES TO TYPE IN CAPITALS WHEN MY ,EYES ARE BAD

Bigmuz7 · 28 August 2008, 22:30

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Originally Posted by thornbackflound

im not ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SHOUTING ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,JUST EASIER FOR ME SOMETIMES TO TYPE IN CAPITALS WHEN MY ,EYES ARE BAD

Reduce the resolution of your monitor then in 'windows' if thats what you use, that should help you to see text better, as it blows the picture up more ,.. or,. get a bigger monitor/screen,... Ive noticed that I've had to do this over the years

but it does make it easier on the eyes

jyasaki · 29 August 2008, 00:03

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Originally Posted by thornbackflound

I USE 2 METRES OF CHAIN ON ME GRAPNEL ,HOLDS FINE ON SANDY BOTTOMS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,CHAIN LAYS THE ANCHOR DOWN JUST RIGHT

I used to have a grapnel on my Achilles 14'. 8 lb anchor and oh, 10' or so of 3/8" chain.

Went halibut hunting (over sand), dropped straight down from the boat to the bottom, and watched as the anchor sailed past leaving 2 nice little furrows in the sand.

No grapnels for me.

jky