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11 April 2012, 09:06
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anchor
Hi
I have a bombard 380 and wandered what size / type of anchor people use?
Was going to order a folding grapnel type, but wanted what weight was the best to go for?
Thanks.....
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11 April 2012, 09:39
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A grapnel is useless in most circumstances - Go for a small bruce (2kg). Hold really well in most circumstances, small and compact and no nasty sharp bits to damage the tubes.
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11 April 2012, 11:50
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Thanks - sounds like it makes sense - was looking at the grapnel one as looked a bit smaller, but now you mention it seem to remember trying to use them when fishing as a kid and not holding well, so will try a bruce.
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11 April 2012, 12:07
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I use a 2.5 kg Bruce and a 2.5 kg danforth (both copies) with 4m of chain on a similar sized boat and have never had problems with either.
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11 April 2012, 15:50
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I think (small) SIB users need to consider what they want their anchor to do for them. Their requirements are probably a little different to RIB users...
My take on it is that you're not going to be out in stormy weather, given the capability of the boat. So in reality, you're probably needing something to hold the boat in a strong tide situation without a F8 complicating the equation. You will want to use the anchor on beaches and in sandy shallows, as a matter of course.
I use a 2.5kg Bruce and quite a bit of chain - 4m on a 2.7m SIB. I use a light line.
The thinking is:
1. Bruce is a good all-rounder
2. Bruce has no pointy bits
3. Bruce packs in neatly
4. Extra chain helps the anchor hold better
5. Extra chain gives useful weight in the bow
6. Light line means more length in the bag
7. Light line is OK, because I'm securing it to glued patches anyway
Whatever you get - go out and play with it, see how best to deploy it and how it sets and holds. That way, you'll be happy to use it when fishing, snoozing, off the beach, in trouble...
AND always always carry the anchor bag. It can stop a bad situation getting worse.
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11 April 2012, 18:45
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I carry a hooker and throw the hooker overboard with chain attached to keep the hooker on the bottom. I have no love for the hooker, but I just wasn't attracted to Bruce.
With a 14' boat I have 15' of chain, which is rated heavier than what was suggested. The anchor rope I used is fairly light weight three strand, and I added simple length markers so a non boater can be told to put out 120' and they can then read 120'. The carabiner at the bow is what the anchor is tied off to. Make sure to use wire or something on any screw type links.
Okay so I have a Danforth Hooker. The milk crate holds it perfectly! It can not bounce out, and holds the anchor rope flaked in nicely.
I also wanted to use multiple points to attach the anchor to, so I built a harness.
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11 April 2012, 18:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_C
but I just wasn't attracted to Bruce.
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...even though he packs in neatly?
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11 April 2012, 20:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
...even though he packs in neatly?
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You can't beat the Danforth Hooker legs put through the holes of the milk crate. The hooker stays put in the roughest water. The front may bounce a little, but it just doesn't move, and can't rub on the tubes at all.
A Bruce would probably self deploy in my boat. They are great anchors and I went back and forth on which one to get. Rocky bottoms are prime territory for Bruce anchors.
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11 April 2012, 22:13
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i'm a bit concerned as i was advised to buy a bruce 2.5 with 3mtr chain (5.3 mtr rib) not been in a position to use and be reliant on it, any ideas what i should be using ?
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11 April 2012, 22:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shaunholland
i'm a bit concerned as i was advised to buy a bruce 2.5 with 3mtr chain (5.3 mtr rib) not been in a position to use and be reliant on it, any ideas what i should be using ?
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I would say a Bruce 5kg for your rib Shaun.
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11 April 2012, 22:17
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cheers for that kerny.
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11 April 2012, 22:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
I would say a Bruce 5kg for your rib Shaun.
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and a few more meters of chain.
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11 April 2012, 23:38
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This anchor and chain should do the trick to hold most any RIB. Might need a big ship and crane to move it for you...(Otherwise a 5kg Bruce anchor and longer chain should work well)
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12 April 2012, 07:20
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Just looking through the original Bruce anchor data sheets hat came with mine when I bought it in 1979
calculated as normal in 60 knot wind conditions some shelter with a displacement boat and on a soft soft sea bed
5 mtr =2kg
5 to 7 mtr=5kg
7 to 11 mtr=10kg
Being a high hold it will still bury itself with a rode or line angle of up to 30% unlike most other types that need 10/15%.
Also being high holding type unlike other anchors that need lots of chain to work it only needs Approx 2 metres of chain thats just to stop
rocks chaffing through the rope.
I use a 2.5 kg Bruce on my 3.5 sib with no problems ,
I have even had 4 other much larger hard fishing boats all tied up to me at the same time with no problem except then leaving me to recover a very deeply buried anchor .
Mart
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12 April 2012, 08:43
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I have a1kg Bruce I use on my SR4 & it has held my rib + 2boston walers for the best part of a day, should have seen there faces at the end of the day when I pulled it up
I do have 5m of chain on it too
I have a 5kg + chain on my Ribeye & when set in sand i tried pulling it in to the beach & could not it held solid!
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12 April 2012, 10:14
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My 4.7m rib hold very well with a 2Kg bruce - technically I think you are supposed to have the same length chain as boat length - Although I think I've only got about 3 metres.
But I guess all depends on the conditions you will normally want to anchor.......
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12 April 2012, 15:44
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The type of rope that's used on any type of anchor can make a big difference to how good it will hold too,
Nylon that has high stretch is one of the best one s as it will take out any shock or snatch loading that may tend to yank on the anchor that wave actions can generate especially in a SIB where the boats bow will be buffeted up and down more unlike a normal boat or RIB where the boats bow will tend to be cutting through them more. Well up to a point.
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29 April 2012, 19:05
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Just read all the posts on this thread--thanks guys. Now I know exactly what anchor to buy as well as chain length and line type.
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