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21 July 2023, 21:54
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Boatworld 435 kayak/any users out there?
Hi
Considering buying but would like to hear from you end users and if possible see it on the water
Thanks
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22 July 2023, 05:52
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I have the 365 version. It is very narrow that it makes operating the outboard tiller quite difficult. My review here
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22 July 2023, 14:09
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Hi Ajmal, saw this on ebay which may be of interest to you.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266342694...mis&media=COPY
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22 July 2023, 14:34
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Be interesting to see what that goes for
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23 July 2023, 00:36
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Thanks to both for your review (Ease) and the eBay link (Steve).
I am still trying to determine whether these narrow SIBs (or “Kaboats”) perform anywhere close To normal Kayaks when being paddled. Or are they just completely hard work when
being paddled - even against a little wind
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23 July 2023, 00:39
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Thanks to both for your review (Ease) and the eBay link (Steve).
I am still trying to determine whether these narrow SIBs (or “Kaboats”) perform anywhere close To normal Kayaks when being paddled. Or are they just completely hard work when
being paddled - even against a little wind
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23 July 2023, 10:44
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Boatworld 435 kayak/any users out there?
I think the problem with rowing any sib lies with the fact the hull has no glide. With a traditional displacement hull rowing boat the hull’s momentum carries the forward motion between strokes, enabling efficient long strokes at a relaxed pace. With an inflatable as soon as the stroke finishes the boat stops, forcing short strokes at a frenetic pace to make any sort of headway. Of course longer better shaped oars would also help a lot.
I would imagine the narrow hull kaboats will be better than a traditional sib but still nowhere near as good as a rigid kayak, particularly the longer ones.
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23 July 2023, 12:14
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Would something like a family sized Old Town canoe fitted with an outboard bracket not suit your needs better.
https://www.google.com/search?client...ig21TXNK8_y-9M
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23 July 2023, 15:06
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Yes if only 2/3 folks a canoe with outrigger OB bracket is ideal and for quiet and easy river exploring... a setup I've used in the past. My best variant of that was a plywood open canoe with the stern cut/modded flat to get a 2hp on. That went well on part throttle with almost no wash.
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23 July 2023, 15:44
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Here just to give an idea is a scale model I built and bath tested with scale weights before modding the actual canoe which I think was a 16ft cut down to a 14ft or 18ft cut to 16ft. Construction was ply stitch and tape.
It was really light and easily car topped. Ran it with a 2hp Mariner 2-stroke. Brilliant river explorer.
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23 July 2023, 19:35
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What a craftsman! Unfortunately storage will be a problem. And I should have said earlier that an inflatable + motor will also allow coastal rides - though would not like to use the motor on quiet rivers
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23 July 2023, 22:41
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Good luck finding the Unicorn!
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24 July 2023, 00:26
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I think the way to go is a sib with an inflatable keel. That’s what I have read on some other posts. It gives better rowing performance, apparently
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24 July 2023, 09:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajmal
I think the way to go is a sib with an inflatable keel. That’s what I have read on some other posts. It gives better rowing performance, apparently
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Everyone on the forum who has commented that sibs are not the best things to row/paddle has, or at one time had, a sib with an inflatable keel.
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24 July 2023, 10:38
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Many thanks - to everyone for their advise
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