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03 March 2016, 13:55
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Bow bags
Has anyone had any experience with the Honwave bow bag? Or any decent bow bag? I'm not really looking for something that is small and side opening for small items like cameras etc., more of a storage facility that keeps bow line, anchor & chain and other bulky bits and pieces well up front and securely held in place when bouncing through the waves.
I was going to use something like an Ikea bag or one of those heavy duty shopping bags held in place with bungy cord but its a bit unsightly TBH.
Any ideas/suggestions greatly welcomed.
It's for a Honwave T-38.
Thanks
Stig
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03 March 2016, 14:06
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stig
i have used gorilla bucket £4 from BQ
cheers
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03 March 2016, 14:28
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Well I have the OE Aerotec bow bag as supplied with a new one and I'm only keeping it for the sake of completeness on resale.
I had a new Honwave 3.5AE which was a boat show special offer with free bow bag... sold the bag on immediately.
Reasons...
All the bow bags I've had/seem hold the bag off the floor a few inches so if you put heavy stuff in them like an anchor it tries to escape the bottom by splitting the material... or it strains the zip opening... or strains the attachments to the tubes.
If you have to go bow-on to a crowded pontoon they are a pain to climb over.
In certain circumstances folks (particularly kids/teens) are well placed sitting on the floor at the bow and the bag prevents this.
I use a waterproofed heavy canvas bag for the anchor/chain/ropes/tow bridle which sits next to the fuel tank under the seat.... tied on just in case.
Everything else is distributed between two or three dry bags... not this make but similar...
Exped Folding Lightweight Waterproof Drybag Ideal for Canoe Kayak Sailing | eBay
They are waterproof and float even with a fair bit of gear in. They can be placed where needed according to the space around folks with you. I clip them on so they can't be thrown out.
In the ultimate worse case of abandon ship they can be quickly unclipped and taken with you into the water so you still have all your personal possessions. In the less serious situation of leaving the SIB on a pontoon while at lunch they are a neat way of taking the expensive bits like camera/phone/radio/gps etc with you.
One of the bags is marked "grab bag" in big letters and all aboard know it's the most important to take in a crisis with flares, backup gps, comms, water, torch, knife, sweets, 1st aid kit, car/house keys and so on
That's just how we do it... loads of variations with other folks and different needs.
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03 March 2016, 15:00
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OK - good call on the dry bags. I'll need to find a good way to secure them. When out the other day I had to use the bow line to secure my fuel tank and battery as they wanted to join me in the stern when we were bouncing rough the waves.
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03 March 2016, 15:50
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Dry bags & cargo nets👍
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03 March 2016, 15:55
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I'd go Pelicase (or Chinese copy) for anchor, spares, tools, valuables etc, secure this down to the floor to stop bouncing - pics of mine in that long Aerotec thread. Stick a loose anchor in anything soft and it will bounce like crazy destroying anything inside and the bag itself.
And drybags for clothes, food etc - just clip onto the front guide ropes or whatever.
I really like to keep the central floor area as clear as possible, makes it much easier to move about and pilot the boat in the rough stuff.
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03 March 2016, 16:26
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On my (smaller) SIB I have kept ground gear and lines in a heavy duty sportsbag type thingy. I secure that to the safety lines on the bow with a carabiner.
I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to devise a rig-up where the anchor and warp self deployed in the event of a capsize...
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03 March 2016, 16:33
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lomo water sports dry bags large with rucksack straps so easy to carry Velcro fastening if you want them off £21 inc vat, in red i use mine as a grab bag, spare coat, food,wallet,phone etc. held down with an elastic cargo net.
you can buy rope access bags canvas but not dry for the anchor.
cheers
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03 March 2016, 17:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to devise a rig-up where the anchor and warp self deployed in the event of a capsize...
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Writing a capsized boat with an anchor deployed under it is particularly hard work!
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Originally Posted by Max...
I'd go Pelicase (or Chinese copy) for anchor, spares, tools, valuables etc, secure this down to the floor to stop bouncing - pics of mine in that long Aerotec thread.
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Do you put a wet anchor etc in your peli alongside all the stuff you want to keep dry?
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03 March 2016, 19:03
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Originally Posted by Poly
Writing a capsized boat with an anchor deployed under it is particularly hard work!
Do you put a wet anchor etc in your peli alongside all the stuff you want to keep dry?
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I'm sure you asked me that same question last time we did this topic!
No, the anchor (folding grapnel - yes, I know.....I know...) goes in a rolled up dry bag with it's chain and warp. And it's never wet 'cause I've never used it!
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03 March 2016, 19:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max...
I'm sure you asked me that same question last time we did this topic!
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http://www.rib.net/forum/f50/what-ki...tml#post685896
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03 March 2016, 19:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max...
I'm sure you asked me that same question last time we did this topic!
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Don't mind him - he's been in here a long time.
For Poly, it's deja vu all over again...
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03 March 2016, 19:15
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Max great little set up yours looking at your fuel tank possibly the best tank for a sib IMO which lead me to think a sausage kit bag with Velcro openings for kit wet or dry slung in the same way balancing the boat out, easy to get at leaving plenty of leg room full length of the boat.
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03 March 2016, 20:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Don't mind him - he's been in here a long time.
For Poly, it's deja vu all over again...
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To be fair I gave pretty much the same answer, we're all like a load of stuck records I guess after so many tears discussing the same old stuff...
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03 March 2016, 20:54
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Quote:
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I guess after so many tears discussing the same old stuff...
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Aye , we've had our share of tears & tantrums over the years😏
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03 March 2016, 21:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max...
we're all like a load of stuck records
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I wish I was still a 45...
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03 March 2016, 21:17
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Quote:
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I wish I was still a 45...
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Prolly closer to a 78😄
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03 March 2016, 21:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Aye , we've had our share of tears & tantrums over the years
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Crappy modern iPad auto-not-correct.
(actually me hitting wrong key as I refuse to get the glasses I need being rapidly also leaving the '45 in the past..arrrgghhhhhhhhhh)
I still love Vinyl, long live the LP.
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04 March 2016, 10:11
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Sorry to put you lot through the pain of repeated questions, I did search for topics before posting - honest guv...
And in order to cease the pain - dry bags ordered, ditching the 'aux engine', next outing should be enough room to lay out a deck lounger and get the drinks cabinet on-board, I'll have me a right proper floating gin palace...
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04 March 2016, 10:35
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>>>Sorry to put you lot through the pain of repeated questions,
It's no problem really. There are only 26 questions pertaining to SIB use and 78 answers to those questions (one right, one wrong and one totally off topic for each).
What would a forum be if we couldn't keep going round that loop?
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