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25 July 2022, 14:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Warrington
Make: Yam380s
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp 4 stroke
Join Date: Jul 2022
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Bow dropping
Hi
I have a YAM380s Ali floor suited with a 4 stroke 15hp yam.
Issue is, once I get on the plain and open the throttle the bow begins to drop and tries to steer off to the starboard side. Ive tried raising the outboard slightly although still approximately 1” below transom. I’m only managing around 16kts when on WOT. Outboard is set on pin hole No2 from the transom. Ive run out of ideas. Thanks. Mark
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25 July 2022, 14:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matk
Hi
I have a YAM380s Ali floor suited with a 4 stroke 15hp yam.
Issue is, once I get on the plain and open the throttle the bow begins to drop and tries to steer off to the starboard side. Ive tried raising the outboard slightly although still approximately 1” below transom. I’m only managing around 16kts when on WOT. Outboard is set on pin hole No2 from the transom. Ive run out of ideas. Thanks. Mark
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16kn doesn’t sound way off the mark.
What’s your WOT rpm?
Prop pitch?
Trim tab setting?
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25 July 2022, 14:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Warrington
Make: Yam380s
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp 4 stroke
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 3
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Hi
Thanks for replying. My trim setting is on hole 2 from the transom, it did have a 10-1/4P prop but I have replaced it for a 9P yet to try,,, WOT is around 4900 with 10P prop.
I’m more concerned that the bow drop and pushes the water as it tries to throw me out at full throttle, Ive tried all the trim settings. Do I need to lift the outboard more so its inline with bottom of the transom?
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25 July 2022, 15:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,153
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matk
Hi
Thanks for replying. My trim setting is on hole 2 from the transom, it did have a 10-1/4P prop but I have replaced it for a 9P yet to try,,, WOT is around 4900 with 10P prop.
I’m more concerned that the bow drop and pushes the water as it tries to throw me out at full throttle, Ive tried all the trim settings. Do I need to lift the outboard more so its inline with bottom of the transom?
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Possibly a silly question, but is the boat setup/inflated properly? Is the keel straight? Have you tried putting some weight on the port side (fuel tank?)
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25 July 2022, 16:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: Warrington
Make: Yam380s
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp 4 stroke
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Hi, yes all setup correctly and keel straight. The fuel tank is located central aft and I sit in the port sponson. I’ve only had the boat out a couple of times since owning and always does it. Just doesn’t seem right. I’m also alone in the boat carrying only a few items.
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25 July 2022, 16:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
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I would not expect more than 16 kts from that outfit TBH, less if anything.
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25 July 2022, 18:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Do you have an image of the outfit so the outboard leg and transom show so anything odd might be obvious to us.
Your description of bow dropping and veering off sounds a lot like bow steer which is usually when there is too much weight forward. However with a heavy 4-stroke and yourself plus fuel at the stern it would on the face of it be the opposite.
SIBs are usually quite even tempered with the outboard dropped on the standard transom set height then trimmed in the middle pin position... distribute your weight evenly and off you go.
A pic that showed the prop plus the pitch markings might help too in case it's got something weird on it.
What are you using to determine the boat is properly inflated?
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25 July 2022, 19:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Originally Posted by Matk
Hi, yes all setup correctly and keel straight. The fuel tank is located central aft and I sit in the port sponson..
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Hmmm! You’d normally sit on the Stbd side to counter the torque of the prop. Try changing sides.
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25 July 2022, 19:47
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Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
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My two pence speed is about spot on weight distribution is the key as said move helm position and the tank back opposite you, hole two is good but it might need hole three in you scenario.
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25 July 2022, 21:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20 efi & 9.8 2s
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 3,436
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When I first got my SD360 I also suffered the bow dropping from time to time, being a newbie I thought it was normal.
Highland Haggis spotted it and suggested I try changing the trim pin hole to the next one away from the transom (No 3), had to redistribute a bit of weight, but what a difference it made.
As Jeff has mentioned, I also thought you sat on the stbd side to counter act the rotation of the prop.
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25 July 2022, 23:07
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Which side is an old chestnut on here but I’ve always been SB (as is the RNLI way) but mainly as a biker, twisting a throttle the ‘wrong’ way, albeit with the left hand is odd.
Which side do you sit on?
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