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20 May 2008, 01:43
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Country: Canada
Town: British Columbia
Make: Gemini
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp 2 str
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Originally Posted by dverstege
Grand is basically a Brig boat. I have a Brigs B350 find it to be a good little sib but I use it only one week a year and only row it to my fishing spots from camp. It was told to me from the Brig dealer down here that Brigs owners had there differences and separated, one kept the Brigs name the other started the Grand company.
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I was kind of curious about this, given that both companies have their Canadian headquarters about a mile away from each other and the boats look very similar. In fact both websites have more pictures/videos of nearly naked women on the beach and on their boats than of the boats themselves.
I was also a little bit curious since the Brig homepage states that they are not built in China. Apparently the plant is in Kharkov, Ukraine. I'd guess that the Grand boats are also built at that same plant.
There is also the Toronto based Manta inflatable boats. These are manufactured in Toronto. Dave Berry (who is a member on this forum) is affiliated with this company.
http://www.manta-inflatables.com/ind...nflatables.htm
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20 May 2008, 12:05
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Country: Netherlands
Town: Deventer
Boat name: none
Make: Mercury
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury F20M
Join Date: May 2008
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Originally Posted by mike
I have owned
so in summary I would reccomend
310/330/340 qsilver or similar, floors are easy and stable, costs reasonable and you will have enough for either 4 or bigger 2 stroke.
the bigger solid floors always end up being left on trailer or on roof rack etc as the assemby time and wear/tear can be a nuisance.
best of luck.
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Seen a nice quicksilver, the 310ADV. When you look at the picture, is seems that you can fit 2 seats. Am I right?
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20 May 2008, 12:36
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Yes you can but to be honest I much prefer sitting on the tubes or down inside the boat.
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20 May 2008, 19:55
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Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
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You really only want to have the seat fitted if you're rowing, or motoring slowly in a dead calm. In any other conditions the tube or the floor is the place to sit.
But to answer your question, yes there are two places where the seat can be mounted. You'll only get one with the boat though.
John
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20 May 2008, 21:52
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Deventer
Boat name: none
Make: Mercury
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury F20M
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 90
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thank you all for you support,
I got enough information now to know where to look at when buying a inflatable. Im not sure yet which inflatable it would be, but i sure tell you all when i got one!. The Manta boats looks nice to, but unfortunalty i cant find a dealer in the netherlands. I also did not know that sitting on the seat suplied with the boat is not a good idea when the ride gets a little bumpy. Im sure i will use the boat for fishing to, then it would be a perfect place to sit on
I was pretty sure that i buy a Tohatsu engine till today, Someone told me that tohatsu is not really good quality. A tohatsu dealer told me that they are manufactured in the same pland as mercury. But thet use other materials who las less longer. Am i right? Or do you guys(and girls ) think something else?
Greatings!
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20 May 2008, 22:18
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Tohatsu are great and they are made by Nissan.
Although you won't be using the seat keep it in place - it stiffens up the boat and gives you something to hold onto.
Good luck and have fun with it!!!
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20 May 2008, 23:41
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Country: Canada
Town: British Columbia
Make: Gemini
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp 2 str
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Actually, Nissan outboards are made by Tohatsu. Some smaller Mercury motors are also made by Tohatsu. I have a late 90's 25 hp Mercury 'Classic' (carbureted 2 stroke) that was built by Tohatsu, and it is nearly bombproof.
Virtually all of the thundercat/zapcat racers run either Tohatsu or Yamaha 50hp 2 strokes (with the majority being Tohatsu since they are a little lighter). They run them at rpms much higher than what the stock rev limiters would allow and they jump them repeatedly through the air. In other words, Tohatsu outboards absorb an extremely severe beating at the hands of thundercat racers and appparently hold up very well.
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20 May 2008, 23:46
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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I agree - i have seen several Tohatsu engines (2 strokes) become totally submerged when running - some WD40 and new plugs and they are soon running again!!!
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21 May 2008, 00:55
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Member
Country: Other
Town: San Carlos, Mexico
Boat name: INDE
Make: LOMAC 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 Merc.
MMSI: Please press 1
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,688
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My bright shiny new Tohatsu 6 hp 4 stroke just arrived so I hope you all are right.
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21 May 2008, 07:22
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Deventer
Boat name: none
Make: Mercury
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury F20M
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 90
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you convinced me tou buy a Tohatsu. On many infllatable brand sites i see they use tohatsu's. They dont do that when the quality is poor.
Linda, did you order the 1 or 2 cillinder edition?
greatings
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21 May 2008, 20:17
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Deventer
Boat name: none
Make: Mercury
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury F20M
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 90
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just ordered a Quicksilver 310 adventure for 740 pound. Cant wait to get the boat! the engine type is depending on my budget next month
i'm very hapy!
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21 May 2008, 20:54
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Good for you - my quicksilver is great. Depending on how you use it the wheels you see mounted on mine make life a lot easier.
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21 May 2008, 21:19
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Country: Netherlands
Town: Deventer
Boat name: none
Make: Mercury
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury F20M
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i read about the wheels. it sure looks easier! are those made by quicksilver? or just universal? Think i got to buy them to!
quicksilver claims that their material used for the tubes(duratex i believe they call it) is made in european factory's. They give 5 years of waranty on it. So i think buyinh a quicksilver is a safe thing to do.
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21 May 2008, 22:46
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
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The wheels are extra.
http://www.mailspeedmarine.com/infla...ls679009.bhtml
Don't get the ones with smaller plastic wheels - they are rubbish!!!
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26 May 2008, 18:56
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Deventer
Boat name: none
Make: Mercury
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury F20M
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Posts: 90
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Just came home from buying a Engine, its a suzuki df5.
But now i doubt if it is a long or short shaft. Dont got any reference to look at, and its not on the identification plate.
Could you guys see it on the picture?
Greatings
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26 May 2008, 22:12
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Looks like a short shaft to me!!!
If not it looks the same sort of length as my 15hp and that works fine!!!
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26 May 2008, 22:47
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Country: Netherlands
Town: Deventer
Boat name: none
Make: Mercury
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury F20M
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Looks like a short shaft to me!!!
If not it looks the same sort of length as my 15hp and that works fine!!!
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and is your engine a short shaft to? (15 inch)
Greatings.
(still have to wait till my boat arrives )
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26 May 2008, 23:01
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Not a clue but I assume so as it fits my Quicksilver fine.
My boat and engine were not new when i bought them - only used 3 times and less than a year old. i paid £1200 for them - the engine alone is worth more than that!!!
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26 May 2008, 23:15
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Deventer
Boat name: none
Make: Mercury
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury F20M
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 90
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Sounds like a great deal to me codprawn!
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26 May 2008, 23:35
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: porthcawl
Make: lomac
Length: 4m +
Engine: evinrude 40 etec o/b
MMSI: 235069383
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yep looks like a short shaft to me ,enjoy.
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