Carrying a SIB on the car roof.

[smallribber]

It seem quite a lot of people successfully carry their boats on the car roof. For me the worry of it coming off would get in my head too much and the journey would not be nice. I much prefer a trailer where you can have the sib 95% set up with the engine on and with few worries

[Tonus]

Here's a nice little video - lots of info that would suit people new to Sibs. Start and end show the transport on the roof of a van's ladder roller.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZavjD8l2Cw4&t=1482s

[User name]

Originally Posted by Tonus

Here's a nice little video - lots of info that would suit people new to Sibs. Start and end show the transport on the roof of a van's ladder roller.

I enjoy his channel. He has some really good fishing content.
Good example of what can actually be done in terms of transporting a fairly big SIB on a roof too. Someone here made out like it was impossible when I mentioned how I transport mine previously.

I've been hearing a few good things about that SIB too. I'd love to get an in-person look at one.

[Tonus]

Yeh it's a good channel - he comes across well. I was looking at the Maelstrom 380 Air Deck model which is interesting... like a similar boat to the T38 but a wider bow and less money. The Alu deck a bit heavy for me solo at 70kg or so.

Funny, I just went on the Maelstrom site and this video is right on the front page... it's all good marketing haha

[jeffstevens763@g]

Watched the vid he doesn’t carry a pump not good, plus there’s tear aid which can be applied wet for a temp repair or you can use wood cone bungs to fit in a hole to get you home

[Steve509926]

I've always liked Oban's channel he has some really good content and enjoyable videos, especially when he went out to Eddeystone Lighthouse.
However, let's put this into some context. Oban is young (under 30?) biggish and probably pretty fit, but even he was struggling and out of breath getting that sib back on the roof of his van.
The OP sounds very much like myself, 60 i'sh and relatively fit. He, like myself, would probably be able to put his sib on the roof and take it off again, but would he or I want to do it regularly, not a cat in hells chance! Been there, done it and it was a ball ache!
This hobby/pass time of ours is much more enjoyable when you can make things as easy as possible. So when your younger and fit enough, putting your sib on the roof of your vehicle may be the way to go, but you do reach a certain age when common sense prevails.

[User name]

Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

Watched the vid he doesn’t carry a pump not good, plus there’s tear aid which can be applied wet for a temp repair or you can use wood cone bungs to fit in a hole to get you home

Yeah, I'd have a pump just in case too, but I recently watched a video by the guy that runs Stryker boats and he intentionally deflated all the chambers to see what would happen. He was able to manage just fine, though he was using an airdeck model if I remember correctly. I'd imagine a solid deck would still float ok, but I'd like to see it tested. It's very unlikely you'll have more than 1 chamber down though.

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by Steve509926

I've always liked Oban's channel he has some really good content and enjoyable videos, especially when he went out to Eddeystone Lighthouse.
However, let's put this into some context. Oban is young (under 30?) biggish and probably pretty fit, but even he was struggling and out of breath getting that sib back on the roof of his van.
The OP sounds very much like myself, 60 i'sh and relatively fit. He, like myself, would probably be able to put his sib on the roof and take it off again, but would he or I want to do it regularly, not a cat in hells chance! Been there, done it and it was a ball ache!
This hobby/pass time of ours is much more enjoyable when you can make things as easy as possible. So when your younger and fit enough, putting your sib on the roof of your vehicle may be the way to go, but you do reach a certain age when common sense prevails.

I agree. Also Oban had the help of a down slope. He was quite puffed out after that. With this sort of boating there are many injuries waiting to happen if you get injured you can easily be out of action for several weeks. One of the biggest injuries waiting to happen is lugging around 20 hp 4 stroke outboards. Simply not worth the risk in my book. Lighter sibs I think could go on the roof but 70 kg mmmmmmmm too much.

That certainly is a nice sib though for trailer boating and at a very good price

[User name]

Originally Posted by smallribber

Lighter sibs I think could go on the roof but 70 kg mmmmmmmm too much.

It is a bit weighty, but it's a good example of what's realistically possible if you're reasonably fit. The fact that he's using a van also makes it that bit harder but he handles it well.

I'd rather have a RIB if I was gonna go to the bother of tugging a trailer tbh.

[Tonus]

Originally Posted by User name

Yeah, I'd have a pump just in case too, but I recently watched a video by the guy that runs Stryker boats and he intentionally deflated all the chambers to see what would happen. He was able to manage just fine, though he was using an airdeck model if I remember correctly. I'd imagine a solid deck would still float ok, but I'd like to see it tested. It's very unlikely you'll have more than 1 chamber down though.

I don't often take my electric pump out but do have a spare foot pump in a dry bag. Sits pretty flat and is light.

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by User name

It is a bit weighty, but it's a good example of what's realistically possible if you're reasonably fit. The fact that he's using a van also makes it that bit harder but he handles it well.

I'd rather have a RIB if I was gonna go to the bother of tugging a trailer tbh.

On the Rib front if you have that you can never roll it up. If you have a sib it can generally be used on a trailer but on the odd occasion or for storage that you might like to roll it up you can

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by Tonus

I don't often take my electric pump out but do have a spare foot pump in a dry bag. Sits pretty flat and is light.

I must admit I never take a pump out with me but then I don't fish much

[Tarponhead]

Good Point - I have used straps for years and wouldn’t use anything else. I knew an ex-lorry driver who showed me how to tie ropes that didn’t slip but I still would only use straps on my kayak or canoe. I’m leaning towards pumping it up on site after the comments, unless for short trips.

[Tarponhead]

Originally Posted by Tonus

Here's a nice little video - lots of info that would suit people new to Sibs. Start and end show the transport on the roof of a van's ladder roller.

I watched this and one thing struck me was how high the riffs of vans and SUV’s are, so I’m happy with my estate. A roller on the rear bar would be excellent but not available, unless I start a project…He launches at the same slip I use in Looe - now costs money in the Summer!

[Tarponhead]

Originally Posted by User name

It is a bit weighty, but it's a good example of what's realistically possible if you're reasonably fit. The fact that he's using a van also makes it that bit harder but he handles it well.

I'd rather have a RIB if I was gonna go to the bother of tugging a trailer tbh.

I guess that’s my dilemma - RIB or SIB? I think I’ll start small, less than Oban’s 3.8m but I do like bigger boats - no desire to go out as far as he does as plenty of fish closer in if you know where to go… I also like the portability of 10hp, so what’s the best 10hp SIB/RIB for fishing? There’s a question for thread-hunting on here.

[beamishken]

That video is almost exactly how we used to carry our 3.8m rib when we used to do caravan holidays only difference was we had bunks either side to support the chines of the hull. The key is having the rack overhang the back of the car, in our case a shogun. We had a full width carpeted board which the keel sat on then the bunks either side. We tried to offload onto grass rather than concrete though. Worked well for several years for us

[tinker]

It's seems a decent idea but what do you do when you get back to your accommodation.....leave it on the roof, or take it off again and store or deflate it?

Despite my worst intentions I can't boat every day while I'm holiday, I have to visit shops,.pubs restaurants and other such nonsense to keep the Mrs happy and doing it all with a sib strapped to the roof is going to make it very stressful.

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by tinker

It's seems a decent idea but what do you do when you get back to your accommodation.....leave it on the roof, or take it off again and store or deflate it?

Despite my worst intentions I can't boat every day while I'm holiday, I have to visit shops,.pubs restaurants and other such nonsense to keep the Mrs happy and doing it all with a sib strapped to the roof is going to make it very stressful.

In our case as we were usually on caravan holidays we'd leave it by the caravan if we were having a none boating day out. You have the same issue with a trailered boat if your staying as a hotel or guest house with limited or insecure parking. One of the few times a sib wins over a rib is its ability to fold into small spaces. Not every scenario suits everyone but it's good for folk to see there are options to inflating & deflating everytime

[tinker]

Originally Posted by beamishken

In our case as we were usually on caravan holidays we'd leave it by the caravan if we were having a none boating day out. You have the same issue with a trailered boat if your staying as a hotel or guest house with limited or insecure parking. One of the few times a sib wins over a rib is its ability to fold into small spaces. Not every scenario suits everyone but it's good for folk to see there are options to inflating & deflating everytime

Most camping holidays I go on I make sure they have a trailer park and most do although some take the piss with the charges, Pentewan sands wanted £17 for parking a trailer +£25 to launch. If i take my sib i deflate it and stick it in the back of my camper, the only problem I have with that is petrol /exhaust fumes from the engine/fuel tank.

[Steve509926]

I think what this thread highlights is there is no right or wrong way to transport a sib. The right way is whatever works best for the individual.