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26 April 2024, 12:41
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Country: Sweden
Town: Falun
Make: Zodiac Futura Mk 2c
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20A
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DIY SIB fuel bladder
Instead waiting for the either very expensive or unavailable Zodiac Milpro fuel bladder, has anyone tried to adapt a motorcycle fuel bladder for SIB use? If you already have the Zodiac one, good for you, but where I am it's pretty much unobtainable.
So I was looking at the Giant Loop 5 gal Armadillo bag.
https://www.giantloopmoto.com/produc...wer-reservoir/
It is a spare fuel can/bag (with pour sprout) intended to be carried on an ATV or motorcycle. I was thinking that if I made a hole in the cap and fitted a circular Tohatsu or Suzuki fuel hose connector that it could work as my main fuel tank in a SIB. And right now I can get it on sale for about 130 EUR.
Has anyone tried this or have any thoughts on it?
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26 April 2024, 14:04
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Country: Sweden
Town: Falun
Make: Zodiac Futura Mk 2c
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Engine: Suzuki DF20A
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Well, the finger was trigger happy today. So I already placed the order. At 117 EUR including shipping it wasn't that bad. If it doesn't work out I can always use it as just a spare fuel container.
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26 April 2024, 14:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
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It could work if all sealed and safe, the ex-RNLI bladders come up on here now and again:
https://www.rib.net/forum/f50/bombar...tml#post618799
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26 April 2024, 14:09
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Country: Sweden
Town: Falun
Make: Zodiac Futura Mk 2c
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Engine: Suzuki DF20A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max...
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That looks great!
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27 April 2024, 08:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
Join Date: Jul 2003
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You can make fuel bladders out of hypalon, some race boats do this.
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27 April 2024, 09:16
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhaglund
It is a spare fuel can/bag (with pour sprout)
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I note that while it is clearly INTENDED to be such, they are prohibited from calling it that. Must not comply with regulations around fuel storage/transport, etc.
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27 April 2024, 18:31
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Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
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Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
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To pass our Coast Guard requirements in the USA fuel storage must be USCGA (US Coast Guard) approved. So unless it has a USCGA stamp of approval we would not legally be allowed to use them.
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14 May 2024, 22:12
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Country: Sweden
Town: Falun
Make: Zodiac Futura Mk 2c
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20A
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16 May 2024, 12:07
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Country: UK - England
Town: PORTSMOUTH
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Looks so good in there mate! - pleased your happy
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16 May 2024, 16:12
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Country: USA
Town: San Diego
Make: Zodiac
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Hey Olly - How many bladders do you have left??
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16 May 2024, 16:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
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Looks awesome, bladders are awesome and spread the load and free up space - just take care filling - especially the long RNLI (as per my link) type - they act like a crazy sausage snake with a life of their own!
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03 October 2024, 11:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: PORTSMOUTH
Make: Avon 5.4, Avon 3.4,
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@SoCal Hurricane
hope you are happy with yours ?
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03 October 2024, 16:31
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Town: San Diego
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@ Olly —- they are fantastic! Everyone on here should find you if they need these.
Do you still have any left??
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03 October 2024, 21:44
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Country: Sweden
Town: Falun
Make: Zodiac Futura Mk 2c
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Engine: Suzuki DF20A
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@Olly - Well they're not all fantastic. Mine looks like new and has probably seen very little use. But unfortunately it sprung a leak the first time I left it in the sun. It was a sunny morning about 21 C and it had been sitting in the sun all morning. When I picked it up it was inflated from internal pressure buildup and it had a leak in the top seam. I didn't realize it at right then and there but when I went to fill it up gasoline came pouring out. I'm guessing it's just old and not as strong as it used to be.
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03 October 2024, 23:59
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Have you tried to reglue the seam?
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04 October 2024, 07:59
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Country: Sweden
Town: Falun
Make: Zodiac Futura Mk 2c
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Engine: Suzuki DF20A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCal Hurricane
Have you tried to reglue the seam?
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Not yet. I don't know what glue to use. I have PVC glue but I think hypalon glue may be better for this so I'll get some of that and have a go at it.
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04 October 2024, 15:28
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Town: San Diego
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Those bladders are poly coated. I would used the Clifton "LA4123" glue. The Stabond and Poly Marine are not going to hold well.
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04 October 2024, 17:58
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
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Someone say Zodiac fuel bladders?
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11 October 2024, 15:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: PORTSMOUTH
Make: Avon 5.4, Avon 3.4,
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90, Merc 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCal Hurricane
@ Olly —- they are fantastic! Everyone on here should find you if they need these.
Do you still have any left??
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Yes mate, sorry for delay in reading this
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12 October 2024, 00:09
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Country: Australia
Town: Dalmeny
Make: zodiac
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: May 2015
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I looked into several including the Armadillo ones but found way to much confliction in regards to how long fuel can be stored in them, they seem more suited to using it quickly then storing empty. Ended up staying with the cheaper jerry can option to fill my main tank.
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