Elling KB350 setup and mods etc - Page 11

Jasierock · 14 June 2021, 20:54

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

No issue at all

Thanks Jeff, great for future ref

Jasierock · 14 June 2021, 20:56

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Originally Posted by Steve509926

Don't think I'll be the only one who would be I interested

I will post some photos, I wouldn't want to mass produce them though!

69cmw · 14 June 2021, 20:57

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Originally Posted by Jasierock

No, the sensors on the car can't be switched off so they see the rack and wail mercilessly!

Usually the towbar electrics switch off the rear parking sensors when you put it in reverse, if they have been coded correct or are factory electrics

Tel1965 · 14 June 2021, 21:04

Billows. It tilts quite easily if lifted from the prop end. So I don’t think that the bolts are too tight. I’m sure the problem lies with the bar with two hooks on.

Fenlander · 14 June 2021, 21:53

I've just looked carefully at mine to think what you could be experiencing. Well I never... mine is close to having the same fault but I've jiggled past it OK so not investigated before. I'm going to split the images over several posts so it's sure which comment relates to which image.

Fenlander · 14 June 2021, 21:58

OK so... the hooks you refer to that grab the trim bar are the reverse lift interlock. They are to prevent the prop climbing out of the water when you power backwards. They are only supposed to engage in reverse... in neutral the OB just hangs there... in forward it is pressed home by the thrust but should you hit an object with the skeg it can jump up to minimise damage.

The interlock hooks are controlled by the stainless rod that rises to the hooks from the boss as per the image here. The boss rises and falls as you select gears.

Fenlander · 14 June 2021, 21:59

In reverse the hooks are gripping the rod as they should... more than it looks due to camera angle.

Fenlander · 14 June 2021, 22:00

In forward the hooks are well clear of the rod as they should be.

Fenlander · 14 June 2021, 22:04

In neutral though the hooks are incorrectly just capable of catching the rod such that with the poor mechanical advantage lifting by the hood handhold it is enough to resist lifting. But as you find the extra leverage lifting from the prop end overcomes the "catch" and it lifts OK.

I'd not found this a real problem on mine as such as a couple of jiggles of the OB when lifting from the hood handhold was enough to lift it. But trying in the garage with it on the stand is enough to make the hood vs prop lift chalk and cheese.

Fenlander · 14 June 2021, 22:09

Many outboards have this interlock position adjustable as the lift boss is clamped to the gearchange rod and can be moved to the best position. However on the 9.8 it's on with a roll pin so fixed... but all it needs is a twist of wire or a cable tie under it as in the image to add enough lift to stop this catching in neutral and it lifts easily from the hood.

This mod still allows it to drop enough in reverse for the interlock to work properly.

Tel1965 · 15 June 2021, 07:12

David. I can’t thank you enough for going to the trouble of investigating my problem. Everything on mine is in a similar position to your photos so I will try out your wire mod first and if it works will use a cable tie.
Do you think a single strand of 1.5 twin and earth cable will be ok? Or maybe wrap it around a couple of times.
A local guy here has a quick look at it yesterday and said he could take it to his workshop and have a look at it properly but was a bit reluctant to do it because it might void its warranty.
If it turns out that the wire trick solves the problem do you think I should take it back to the dealer for a proper repair ? As it’s under warranty.

Fenlander · 15 June 2021, 08:05

It’s such a simple mechanical process I’ll just leave it with the cable tie on and not worry about it. Yes a twist of wire or two should do it… anything to just lift that collar a few mm. When done just double check the hooks still grab the rod ok in reverse. You will no doubt be having a first service around 20hrs or so and can just show the dealer what you’’ve had to do and let him decide on any better mod.

Jasierock · 15 June 2021, 08:08

Great posts David. I did remember my Mariner locks being connected to the gearing but had no idea the Tohatsu 9.8 had them! they must be working fine on mine as Ive had no probelms at all.
This is such a good forum for sharing information and solutions whilst always being very positive!

Jasierock · 15 June 2021, 08:12

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Originally Posted by 69cmw

Usually the towbar electrics switch off the rear parking sensors when you put it in reverse, if they have been coded correct or are factory electrics

The towbar was fitted and wired by me so it doesn't switch the sensors off, nor are they switchable as they are on some later cars. I can live with it though as it reminds me the car is 700mm longer when parking up!

Tel1965 · 15 June 2021, 08:30

Once again David thank you so much. When I go down to the harbour later I’ll do what you say and hopefully be back on it again today. We didn’t do any boating yesterday. 1. Because we were aching a bit and a little sunburnt. 2. The wind was up a bit. 3. Because I’m not happy when things aren’t quite right. Especially out at sea.

Tel1965 · 15 June 2021, 08:39

David. Would I be correct in saying you are going to leave the cable tie on yours until it is serviced ?

Fenlander · 15 June 2021, 08:50

Yes I'll just leave the tie on. The way that lift boss works there will be little pressure on the tie and no rubbing so it could well last for many years.

Don't know how long you are down there but it's working up to being very gusty on Thurs so make the most of it while calm.

Tel1965 · 15 June 2021, 09:00

We are here until Friday. The wife wants to go back to the beach again today but I was a little hesitant because of the way the engine is. Your advice has given me the confidence to give it a go.

Tel1965 · 15 June 2021, 20:21

Just got back from a lovely day out at lantic bay again.
We tried a single strand of 2.5 twin and earth cable, a small cable tie and also a thin piece of wire. Neither made any difference. We decided we wouldn’t waste the day so we took the risk and decided to go. As the Tide was going out I had to pull the boat a little distance to water and then paddle a little. Then for some unknown reason the tilt decide to work properly again. I quite impressed myself with my beach landing. Nice and slow and a perfect landing.
The only problem we had was when we got back to harbour this evening, I had to jiggle the engine to tilt again, but at least it worked.

Tel1965 · 15 June 2021, 20:25

Apparently there is a tohatsu dealer in looe which is just around the corner so I gave them a call this morning. I explained the problem and unfortunately the guy said that it would be a 2 week turnaround as they are so busy. So I’ve decided to drop the engine into them when we are on our way home so that they can give it its first service and check out the tilt mechanism. They quoted me between £65 -£85 for a service which I though was quite reasonable. Hopefully when I am back down at the beginning of July the teething troubles will have been sorted.