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07 June 2022, 17:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Make: Elling 350 KB
Length: 3m +
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Elling Outboard
I’m sure that this question would have been asked before but things change so always worth an ask
Just received my new Elling KB350 and was looking at putting a Tohatsu 9.8 2stk on it. I have manage to source one after jumping through a lot of hoops.
My question is before i pull the trigger as there anything else that i’m unaware of sub 30kg that would push my new addition along.
And as an aside who’s responsibility is it to enforce the 2 stroke laws ? I have done some searching and can’t find either the answer, or any indication of checks etc.
Thanks in advance
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07 June 2022, 18:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
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Engine: Mar 60/20/3.5/Hon2.3
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The 9.8 Tohatsu two stroke ain’t perfect but there’s nothing out there now with that power to weight ratio and runs like a sowing machine, so sweet. Well suited to the lightweight Elling and perfect match in my opinion.
If you’ve managed to source a ‘cheeky’ new one, best not attract attention on a public forum.
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07 June 2022, 18:31
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Country: UK - England
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Make: Elling 350 KB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chipko
The 9.8 Tohatsu two stroke ain’t perfect but there’s nothing out there with that power to weight ratio and runs like a sowing machine, so sweet. Well suited to the lightweight Elling and perfect match in my opinion.
If you’ve managed to source a ‘cheeky’ new one, best not attract attention on a public forum.
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Thanks for the heads up….
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07 June 2022, 18:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Explorer 4
Make: Elling KB350
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8 & 6
MMSI: 235913442
Join Date: Nov 2019
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Question for Chipko if I may jump on this conversation: is an 8hp upgraded to 9.8hp a viable worthwhile consideration? It’s been done professionally and has a 3 month btb warranty.
I have no experience of this hence the question but believe they are capable of upgrading.
Papac: may also be worth considering and would be happy to share details as the vendor has two.
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07 June 2022, 18:53
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No expert but upgradable. Needs the 9.8 carb as far as I know…about £125 genuine or £70 copy. Not sure whether timing also needs adjusting.
Plenty on here with much better knowledge.
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07 June 2022, 19:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Explorer 4
Make: Elling KB350
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8 & 6
MMSI: 235913442
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Solent based retailer who has a very good reputation so if it is a ‘doable’ conversion it will have been done right. Compared to some second hand options out there which are, imo, overpriced, it could be a good option. I just wasn’t sure if it was a known conversion.
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07 June 2022, 20:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
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I thought the Tohatsu 2-stroke 8-9.8 conversion was easy... but beware someone a month or two back had researched this and the parts to change for a full conversion were uneconomic. So maybe the one you've been chatting about is a "part way"??
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07 June 2022, 20:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Explorer 4
Make: Elling KB350
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8 & 6
MMSI: 235913442
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Thanks Fenlander. I’ve already emailed the dealer and asked what has been done.
In the interim, thoughts on this one on FB?
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...7784248615829/
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07 June 2022, 22:51
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
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See posts #38-42 in this thread...
https://www.rib.net/forum/f50/time-f...tml#post851443
My head is spinning a bit at the mo so I'd forgotten it was Steve that pulled me up on saying it was an easy conversion... by quoting a reply of mine years ago saying it wasn't so easy.
So approach a converted 8hp with caution.
The Facebook one looks genuine and clean... if the seller, history and reason for sale checks out. Prices might just have started to move downwards so £1200 could be a bit heavy for a grey one.
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07 June 2022, 22:57
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Explorer 4
Make: Elling KB350
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8 & 6
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I’ll be calling the FB one tomorrow and agree, price looks a bit heavy but if it is genuine…
Appreciate your thoughts.
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08 June 2022, 11:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Explorer 4
Make: Elling KB350
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8 & 6
MMSI: 235913442
Join Date: Nov 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
I thought the Tohatsu 2-stroke 8-9.8 conversion was easy... but beware someone a month or two back had researched this and the parts to change for a full conversion were uneconomic. So maybe the one you've been chatting about is a "part way"??
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It’s simply been a re-jetting of the carb to change from 8hp to 9.8hp.
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08 June 2022, 12:43
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
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Hmm well yes then be cautious that likely may not have achieved the full 9.8.
I don't have time this minute but it would be interesting to re-visit the parts fiches for both 8 and 9.8 to see which parts are different.... and see why a few years ago I was so confident there were many changes.
I'd like that dealer's answer to be the result though as it would make an easy upgrade we could all bear in mind.
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08 June 2022, 13:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Maybe consider giving Peter M a shout in 'the other place' too as he appears to have three OB's for sale from 8 to 15.
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08 June 2022, 14:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Explorer 4
Make: Elling KB350
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8 & 6
MMSI: 235913442
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 68
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max...
Maybe consider giving Peter M a shout in 'the other place' too as he appears to have three OB's for sale from 8 to 15.
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Thank you. Liaising with PeterM.
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