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18 February 2021, 20:42
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Country: UK - England
Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20 efi & 9.8 2s
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Originally Posted by johnyp
Thanks guys
Prob no more then 2 on the boat approx 35 stone plus tackle so would think a 20hp on approx 3.80 used on sea prefer ally floor but heavy if i went on my own.
might at times be 4 but not all fishing just me and my family
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Will you be inflating/deflating every time you use it or will you be using a trailer?
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18 February 2021, 20:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: barnsley
Make: excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 hp ob
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yes more likely to
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18 February 2021, 20:55
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Country: UK - England
Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnyp
yes more likely to
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more likely to ........................??
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18 February 2021, 22:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
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And for clarity... my comments about flat and shallow V air floors in post #14 do not apply to the unique "Russian style" air floor of the Volaire model. It's a shame there isn't a lighter version of that design as... despite my enthusiasm for the (on order Elling)... it's always good to have choice.
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18 February 2021, 22:44
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Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20 efi & 9.8 2s
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Originally Posted by Fenlander
And for clarity... my comments about flat and shallow V air floors in post #14 do not apply to the unique "Russian style" air floor of the Volaire model. It's a shame there isn't a lighter version of that design as... despite my enthusiasm for the (on order Elling)... it's always good to have choice.
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If Excel ever bring out a 360 Volaire, I think I would be one of the first in the queue.
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19 February 2021, 07:31
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Town: Colchester
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I have a honwave T38 and am very pleased with it. The new ones with the lack of tabs ar the back I suspect are even better
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19 February 2021, 11:24
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Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Make: Ranieri 15
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF50
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Originally Posted by smallribber
I have a honwave T38 and am very pleased with it. The new ones with the lack of tabs ar the back I suspect are even better
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Did you ever work out the portable trailer for it?
You've had various engines, which one did you find suited best?
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20 February 2021, 19:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: Heanor, Derbyshire
Boat name: Bob.
Make: Ex Vol390 + Van485
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki 2.5/9.9/20hp
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Having owned both I prefer the Excel. Infact my honwave t3.8 is for sale and being replaced with a Volante 390. I also have a Vanguard 435.
A few things to consider with the Honwave are, only one seat as standard. Extra seats are at cost, less protection on the underside compared to the Excel and warranty 2 year warranty compared to 5 years on the Excel.
I am very surprised Honwave didn't opt to extend the warranty period when they updated the range. In fact it puts them at a distinct disadvantage. I run a few owners groups on Facebook and was asked my opinion by Honda UK and put these points forward however nothing came of it.
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21 February 2021, 08:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: barnsley
Make: excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 hp ob
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what motor are you using on the excel please
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21 February 2021, 08:29
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Country: UK - England
Town: Heanor, Derbyshire
Boat name: Bob.
Make: Ex Vol390 + Van485
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki 2.5/9.9/20hp
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On the 435 I use a 9.9hp Suzuki 2 stroke. On the t38 a 5hp mariner or Honda.
This year plan to buy a 20hp for the 435.
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21 February 2021, 08:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dydigital
On the 435 I use a 9.9hp Suzuki 2 stroke. On the t38 a 5hp mariner or Honda.
This year plan to buy a 20hp for the 435.
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Just out of interest, what speed will the 435 manage with the 9.9hp Suzuki?
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21 February 2021, 09:07
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Country: UK - England
Town: Heanor, Derbyshire
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Originally Posted by SixtyNorth
Just out of interest, what speed will the 435 manage with the 9.9hp Suzuki?
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about 16mph (13/14 Knots) in ideal circumstances
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21 February 2021, 11:08
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Cheers. That's not bad. I have never run a 4m+ SIB with a 9.9hp (typically 20-30hp outboards).
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21 February 2021, 12:24
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Heanor, Derbyshire
Boat name: Bob.
Make: Ex Vol390 + Van485
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki 2.5/9.9/20hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SixtyNorth
Cheers. That's not bad. I have never run a 4m+ SIB with a 9.9hp (typically 20-30hp outboards).
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All things considered 10hp I feel is the minimum I would want. I suspect speed falls off dramatically after that. Also over 20hp and your knot to hp ratio also starts to fall.
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21 February 2021, 13:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
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>>> 10hp I feel is the minimum I would want
Yes agreed... on my 3.8 air floor I've used 8, 10, 15 & 20hp motors. If your load was light the 10hp was acceptable if a little limited but the 8 while it would plane OK with a very light loads was quick to fall back to displacement speed if circumstances went against it in loading or wind/wave conditions.
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21 February 2021, 16:21
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Town: Colchester
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Limecc
Did you ever work out the portable trailer for it?
You've had various engines, which one did you find suited best?
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No on the trailer but the best engine for it in my view is the 15hp 2 Stroke
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21 February 2021, 18:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: barnsley
Make: excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 hp ob
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 48
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Thanks guys
time to start looking iv got an old hypalon 2.85 plastic roll up floor stays inflated forever no repairs got a 6hp yamaha 4 stroke like new on the back not used the outfit curiouse as to what its like.
Wish it was around 3.8 would never get rid
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