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Old 15 June 2017, 14:05   #1
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Been using my sib for fishing mainly for mackerel really. I'm wondering whether I should get some plugs to start trying to catch bass but there are so many to choose from. Can anybody recommend a particular type for either casting and retrieving or trolling from the boat? Also are fish finders any use and are there retain transponders for a small sib?

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Old 15 June 2017, 14:13   #2
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I've been trying for bass for years, last year I tried Fiish Black Minnow lures, I had more bass than mackerel [emoji106][emoji106]
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I've been trying for bass for years, last year I tried Fiish Black Minnow lures, I had more bass than mackerel [emoji106][emoji106]
Just checked them out. A big choice, which do you recommend from a sib?
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Ive been sib fishing for the last couple of years and my bass catch has dropped off dramatically!
Im still getting to grips with fishing afloat and have been having so much fun boating the fishing has taken a step backwards but im going to give it a bit more of an effort this year.
Where are you based? if you are trying to get into bass fishing they love foraging in shallow rocky areas and i would suggest dropping anchor and trying weedless soft plastics on a very slow retrieve. Duo live and 4-5" xlayer have been great for me. Fish the on weedless hooks and throw them into the snags, great fun!
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has anybody started catching mackerel yet this season was out the other week and caught nowt in the forth
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Very quiet from the tyne area, think the odd ones are getting caught but not in any numbers yet.
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Thinking about having a trip to Whitby on Saturday to try our luck
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has anybody started catching mackerel yet this season was out the other week and caught nowt in the forth
Yep I was out off Anglesey two weeks ago and could have filled the boat. They were in the deep channel on the seaward side of puffin Island. Feathers with five fish on every time
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Ive been sib fishing for the last couple of years and my bass catch has dropped off dramatically!
Im still getting to grips with fishing afloat and have been having so much fun boating the fishing has taken a step backwards but im going to give it a bit more of an effort this year.
Where are you based? if you are trying to get into bass fishing they love foraging in shallow rocky areas and i would suggest dropping anchor and trying weedless soft plastics on a very slow retrieve. Duo live and 4-5" xlayer have been great for me. Fish the on weedless hooks and throw them into the snags, great fun!
I mostly fish off Penmon point in Anglesey. There are loads of bass about but I never knew what lures to use
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I've been trying for bass for years, last year I tried Fiish Black Minnow lures, I had more bass than mackerel [emoji106][emoji106]
Gonna order some... Do you know what type are best off a boat?
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I use the number 3 & 4, be careful with Bass, there are rules as to how many you can keep & when. I think the season starts 1st July but it varies by region
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Live sandeel with a little 1oz weight in an estuary mouth has worked for me, live baiting a joey mackerel also works
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I use the number 3 & 4, be careful with Bass, there are rules as to how many you can keep & when. I think the season starts 1st July but it varies by region
Lol, you have to catch em first.. But I never take more than I'm going to eat for my tea or breakfast. Even with mackerel I only take two each for me and the missus and one each for the dogs. If I'm lucky enough to catch a bass then I'll only take the one if it's an eater
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Gonna order some... Do you know what type are best off a boat?
Location Water conditions Time of day MUCH more important than Type of Lure
If they're about and feeding they will take just about anything.

Fish/spin over rough/weedy shallow ground (Dawn and Dusk is Best!) with floating Plugs ..or drift over deeper reefs/wrecks when the Tide is moving with Minnows/Wedges on flowing trace with heavier sinker and you won't go far wrong
Free-lining a Joey with a 6.0 through through the top snoze is pretty lethal too
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Location Water conditions Time of day MUCH more important than Type of Lure
If they're about and feeding they will take just about anything.

Fish/spin over rough/weedy shallow ground (Dawn and Dusk is Best!) with floating Plugs ..or drift over deeper reefs/wrecks when the Tide is moving with Minnows/Wedges on flowing trace with heavier sinker and you won't go far wrong
Free-lining a Joey with a 6.0 through through the top snoze is pretty lethal too
Thanks for this advice... Looking forward to my next trip
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I use floating jointed plugs a lot. Dive to a few feet on retrieve & float back up when retrieve slowed.
I've tried surface poppers but not done much good although the takes are visual to say the least!
Tried the Redgill Evolution weighted eels a couple of years ago. Worked very well indeed & like the plugs have good casting weight.
Cast & retrieve with a 12' carp rod/fixed spool reel/braided line (Powerpro green) tied to a clip to allow quick change of lures - also help the lures to work better than tied direct unless you use the Rapala knot.
I fish close in to shore over shallow sandy &/or rocky ground.

For deeper water & fishing the bottom a boat rod/multiplier/braid mainline with a long fluorocarbon trace from a boom fished on drop-to-bottom-reel-up-twenty-turns-and-repeat. The weight is attached to the boom. Smaller eels 4" to 6" seem to get better results & takes are often savage.

As said, be aware of the limits. For 2017 from 1st Jan to 31st June it is catch and release only, no bass to be kept. From 1st July to 31st December it is catch and release but you may keep one bass per fisherman per day. Except the West of Ireland where keeping one per fisherman per day throughout the year is permitted.
Minimum keep size is 42cm.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...shing-for-bass
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I use floating jointed plugs a lot. Dive to a few feet on retrieve & float back up when retrieve slowed.
I've tried surface poppers but not done much good although the takes are visual to say the least!
Tried the Redgill Evolution weighted eels a couple of years ago. Worked very well indeed & like the plugs have good casting weight.
Cast & retrieve with a 12' carp rod/fixed spool reel/braided line (Powerpro green) tied to a clip to allow quick change of lures - also help the lures to work better than tied direct unless you use the Rapala knot.
I fish close in to shore over shallow sandy &/or rocky ground.

For deeper water & fishing the bottom a boat rod/multiplier/braid mainline with a long fluorocarbon trace from a boom fished on drop-to-bottom-reel-up-twenty-turns-and-repeat. The weight is attached to the boom. Smaller eels 4" to 6" seem to get better results & takes are often savage.

As said, be aware of the limits. For 2017 from 1st Jan to 31st June it is catch and release only, no bass to be kept. From 1st July to 31st December it is catch and release but you may keep one bass per fisherman per day. Except the West of Ireland where keeping one per fisherman per day throughout the year is permitted.
Minimum keep size is 42cm.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...shing-for-bass
Wow thanks for such a detailed reply.
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I use floating jointed plugs a lot. Dive to a few feet on retrieve & float back up when retrieve slowed.
I've tried surface poppers but not done much good although the takes are visual to say the least!
Tried the Redgill Evolution weighted eels a couple of years ago. Worked very well indeed & like the plugs have good casting weight.
Cast & retrieve with a 12' carp rod/fixed spool reel/braided line (Powerpro green) tied to a clip to allow quick change of lures - also help the lures to work better than tied direct unless you use the Rapala knot.
I fish close in to shore over shallow sandy &/or rocky ground.

For deeper water & fishing the bottom a boat rod/multiplier/braid mainline with a long fluorocarbon trace from a boom fished on drop-to-bottom-reel-up-twenty-turns-and-repeat. The weight is attached to the boom. Smaller eels 4" to 6" seem to get better results & takes are often savage.

As said, be aware of the limits. For 2017 from 1st Jan to 31st June it is catch and release only, no bass to be kept. From 1st July to 31st December it is catch and release but you may keep one bass per fisherman per day. Except the West of Ireland where keeping one per fisherman per day throughout the year is permitted.
Minimum keep size is 42cm.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...shing-for-bass
What weight power pro line do you use with the carp rod?
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50lb - which is about the same diameter as 12lb mono. Also use the same set-up for Rutland Water's pike - but with a wire trace!

The plugs are mainly 5 to 6". Blue and silver or black and silver in the main but I do have some in more garish colours - such as bright orange - & they work too

Be aware that with braid if you get snagged don't pull it with your hands. I carry a hammer handle to use as a priest & if I get irretrievably snagged I take a few wraps round the handle & pull with that. I have had lures come back with the hooks partially straightened!
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I've just got into mackerel fishing. Silver lures on 4 hooks pulling them out by the dozen although i just take what I will eat.

My method is easy, look for the seagulls diving madly into the water picking out whitebait or whatever they are called, the mackerel are after them forcing them to the surface. I speed across into the melee and drop my line, simple. Normally on a incoming tide close to the shore. My fishing grounds being off Gurnard IOW. Fresh with a bit of lemon and butter.....
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