Glue question

entropy · 10 November 2009, 20:15

Just wanted to see what you sib'ers on this site think about the various glues available for hypalon. I need to do some repair work on my Avon S400.

I understand that catalyzed glues are preferable for better bond strength. Here in the US there seem to be 2 glues available that use catalysts. One is made by Bostik, the other by Clifton. If I remember right, Avon uses Bostik to build their boats, so I'm tempted to buy the Bostik, but I've had others tell me that Clifton is the way to go. I know of a whitewater raft manufacturer that uses Clifton to build their rafts, so it is probably good stuff.

Any of you guys have any experience with these?

Thanks,
Greg

chewy · 10 November 2009, 20:42

Only ever used Bostik and never had any trouble with it.

mirssant · 11 November 2009, 16:33

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Originally Posted by entropy

Just wanted to see what you sib'ers on this site think about the various glues available for hypalon. I need to do some repair work on my Avon S400.

I understand that catalyzed glues are preferable for better bond strength. Here in the US there seem to be 2 glues available that use catalysts. One is made by Bostik, the other by Clifton. If I remember right, Avon uses Bostik to build their boats, so I'm tempted to buy the Bostik, but I've had others tell me that Clifton is the way to go. I know of a whitewater raft manufacturer that uses Clifton to build their rafts, so it is probably good stuff.

Any of you guys have any experience with these?

Thanks,
Greg

Hi Greg

I own an avon s400 too and i bought the two parts hypalon glue made by weaver (made in england) and seems to be good, you are right avon built their boats using bostik but is not available in mexico, i think the must important is to read and folow step by step the gluing instructions

entropy · 12 November 2009, 00:12

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Originally Posted by mirssant

Hi Greg

I own an avon s400 too and i bought the two parts hypalon glue made by weaver (made in england) and seems to be good, you are right avon built their boats using bostik but is not available in mexico, i think the must important is to read and folow step by step the gluing instructions

Could you post some pics of your floor boards as installed in the boat? I'm missing parts for mine and I'd like to see what I need.

How long have you had your S400?

jyasaki · 12 November 2009, 00:31

Last repair I did, I used Weaver polyurethane. Worked quite well (although I should add that I was gluing hypalon to aluminum.) Obtained through a local Zodiac dealer. Weaver also makes a standard hypalon glue, as well as a PVC glue, I think. The PU stuff I used is supposed to be a "universal" adhesive.

My builder expressed reservations about using Clifton, though he didn't say exactly what it was he didn't like. Should you need larger quantities or need a source, NRS has a very good reputaion for price and speed of delivery (at nrsweb.com)

I am curious as to what Bostik adhesive you've located, and if you actually have a source. As far as I'm aware, Bostik 2402 is not available in the US.

jky

entropy · 13 November 2009, 13:47

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Originally Posted by jyasaki

I am curious as to what Bostik adhesive you've located, and if you actually have a source. As far as I'm aware, Bostik 2402 is not available in the US.

jky

JKY,

Clavey river equipment, a rafting outfitter, sells Bostik 2402. They sell Avon rafts, so they may have a special deal to bring Bostik into the US. Try this link:

http://www.clavey.com/index.php?manu...3ldhnuieptmg13

They are located in California.

Greg

jyasaki · 14 November 2009, 20:30

Thanks, Entropy;

Had browsed their site a while back before and must have missed it.

jky

mirssant · 20 November 2009, 03:19

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Originally Posted by entropy

JKY,

Clavey river equipment, a rafting outfitter, sells Bostik 2402. They sell Avon rafts, so they may have a special deal to bring Bostik into the US. Try this link:

http://www.clavey.com/index.php?manu...3ldhnuieptmg13

They are located in California.

Greg

Hi Greg

I own my s400 about 25 years ago i post some pics of the complete floor out of the boat as soon as i assambly into the sib i ll send you some pics.

Sant

entropy · 20 November 2009, 22:58

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Originally Posted by mirssant

Hi Greg

I own my s400 about 25 years ago i post some pics of the complete floor out of the boat as soon as i assambly into the sib i ll send you some pics.

Sant

Thank you Sant. Seeing the floor completely installed would be a great help to me. I want to have this boat ready for spring.

Greg