Hello.

bLaZeR666_uk · 26 May 2016, 12:48

Hi

Newbie to this forum and indeed to boating.

Im a river type person so no sea journeys for me. In particular I visit the broads twice a year for a holiday. I decided to get myself a SIB and small outboard for the purpose of pottering around when we are moored "offshore"

I managed to get a "Cracking" deal

1 Honda 2011 2.3D outboard
1 Jilong Zray IV 300 boat (one minor repair)
4 Adult Seago Auto 175 Lifejackets (1 was brand new unopened)
2 Child Seago Auto Lifejackets
2 Euro XM Quickfit Auto Lifejackets
3 Brand New Adult Sea Pro Lifejackets

All for £300! yes 300

The outboard didnt run (carb clean £40 fixed this) but now runs sweet

I just sold all of the jackets on ebay (except 2 of the sea pros and 1 child seago) for £230 so was chuffed with the end result.

Can any one see any issues with the boat and outboard i have, as I said there will be no inshore expeds all trips will be on the Medway or the Broads.

I have a Honwave T20 (real honda!) but it has 5 seam leaks - not sure on the repair have watched a few vids on youtube but it looks pretty simple to fix.

Looking for approval or concerns and should i fix the T20 or bin it, i do like the Jilong Zray IV as it has a inflatable keel.

jeffstevens763@g · 26 May 2016, 13:08

hi mate

dont bin it if its repairable sort and sell on try poly marine and buy some internal sealer looks like milk take valve out pour in swish about on the leaks pump back up enough to stop sticking together job done.

cheers enjoy new boat looks like a bargain well it is recovering some outlay all ready

bLaZeR666_uk · 26 May 2016, 13:18

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

hi mate

dont bin it if its repairable sort and sell on try poly marine and buy some internal sealer looks like milk take valve out pour in swish about on the leaks pump back up enough to stop sticking together job done.

cheers enjoy new boat looks like a bargain well it is recovering some outlay all ready

Didnt think of that, i was going to glue the seams! - What about tyre sealant ? would this be as effective, it seems that I will have to use quite a bit of this internal sealer so would it be a viable purchase as Im guessing the T20 is worth about £150 ish??

TIA

jeffstevens763@g · 26 May 2016, 14:04

dont use Tyre stuff no good i think last time i looked about £12 for 500 ml it is like milk goes a long way dries rock solid great for awkward areas.
look on poly marine web site loads of info on repairs.

cheers

bLaZeR666_uk · 26 May 2016, 17:33

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

dont use Tyre stuff no good i think last time i looked about £12 for 500 ml it is like milk goes a long way dries rock solid great for awkward areas.
look on poly marine web site loads of info on repairs.

cheers

Its nearly £20 a tin. How many tins would I need?

TIA

bLaZeR666_uk · 26 May 2016, 18:01

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Originally Posted by bLaZeR666_uk

Its nearly £20 a tin. How many tins would I need?

TIA

£28 quid a tin inc postage, is it worth it?

jeffstevens763@g · 26 May 2016, 18:04

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Originally Posted by bLaZeR666_uk

Its nearly £20 a tin. How many tins would I need?

TIA

For 2 m boat one tin 500 ml share it between tubes make sure you work it over the leaks by lifting and lowering on its edge then throw it around the lawn get the kids to help when your satisfied change the air a couple of times to aid cure, make sure you clean the valves.
It should tell you on the tin it's a very long time since I did it.
Cheers

jeffstevens763@g · 26 May 2016, 18:16

Have a look at tear aid then around a tenner if it's not leaking it will sell if only to a ribber instead of beaching the rib put it on hear open to offers see how it goes the remaining tear aid keep for the new boat.

office888 · 26 May 2016, 19:45

Take some pictures of your seam leaks with the boat fully inflated?

If they're minor, the internal sealant will fix them. If they're caused by ungluing, then the internal sealant will not work.

bLaZeR666_uk · 26 May 2016, 23:10

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Originally Posted by office888

Take some pictures of your seam leaks with the boat fully inflated?

If they're minor, the internal sealant will fix them. If they're caused by ungluing, then the internal sealant will not work.

Will do that tomorrow. Found seven leaks. 2 on the valves 5 on seams.

I did read elsewhere that slime inner tube repair was really good, its only 6 quid for 8oz was thinking of getting this?

magicmike0007 · 26 May 2016, 23:29

Only good on tubeless bike tyres not sibs!

bLaZeR666_uk · 26 May 2016, 23:41

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Originally Posted by magicmike0007

Only good on tubeless bike tyres not sibs!

It was on here

magicmike0007 · 27 May 2016, 08:20

Interesting reading,it didn't work for me on an old hypalon Compass. (Also on mtb tyres)

bLaZeR666_uk · 27 May 2016, 09:47

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Originally Posted by magicmike0007

Interesting reading,it didn't work for me on an old hypalon Compass. (Also on mtb tyres)

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Just wondering if its worth a shot? as I can get 16oz for 8 quid (just found a place that sells it).

Does this stuff solidify as Im guessing as if it doesnt work I can always get some rib sealant.

I found this site Just as good as the other repair fluid you recommened?

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UPDATE

Just watched

this vid

on youtube reguarding slime it seems it remains liquid inside the tyre, is this how the RIB tube sealant works or does that dry up?

magicmike0007 · 27 May 2016, 10:15

The Slime initially does not go hard when it seals the leak but it does eventually dry up as the fluid evaporates and would probably disintegrate. Its not made to be a long term solution to an air leak, its also very critical to get the right amount of solid/fibres/fluid in to the leak. The other problem you may have if you try it and it fails you wlll have to remove the slime before trying an adhesive based product.
My opinion only!
Mike.

Fenlander · 27 May 2016, 10:25

If by seam leaks you mean the glued tube seams are starting to go then this will continue to happen in other places. Even for river use I'd not bother, nothing worse than turning up to launch somewhere and finding it's gone in another area.

Describe honestly on Ebay and start at 99p taking whatever you get.

Stigomery · 27 May 2016, 10:25

Also, if you inflate/deflate the boat what will happen to all that slime/goo when the boat is rolled up and then you come to inflate it again?

As said, it doesn't go solid for a long time, the excess will just slosh around and potentially cause other problems...

Why not buy the stuff designed for the job?

jeffstevens763@g · 27 May 2016, 10:52

how slime works it has micro fibers that block the hole not a glue the idea of the poly marine stuff is it covers the whole of the inside of the tube giving a layer inside but if you put slime in thats the end as you wont get it clean again as fenlander says if the seams are going and not punctures bin it but cut off any bits you can use on the new boat see gurnards thread FRIB where he did that with a sea-go sib