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Old 15 April 2012, 22:22   #1
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Help re: Mariner kill switch and insurance for cat D boat

Hi, can anyone help, i've just purchased a 2004 Mariner 10hp outboard, but it doesn't appear to have a kill switch. I'm almost certain that engines this new were automatically fitted with one. The service manual makes reference to a switch. On the side of the outboard is a switch (see picture) that looks like something should snap into it.

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Does anyone know where I could find an applicable one or suggest a website with a product number so I don't buy the wrong one.


Also with my engine was a quicksilver 270 air deck. It is a catergory D boat but I was intending on using it around 100 meters from the shore in Anglesey in only a glassy sea. Do you know if NobleMarine would still insure it or would they insist on a catergory C?

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Old 15 April 2012, 22:51   #2
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you need one of these ...........yours looks broken

and a lanyard
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Old 15 April 2012, 22:53   #3
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Hi

That's the kill switch. Designed so you can flick it back to run to go get the MOB if needed. Here's the kill cord you need. Flick the switch "off" then catch the hoop by inserting it into the run area and switching the switch back up.

Wrap the other end around your leg/wrist. Please don't be tempted to ever run without the cord or with it connected to the motor rather than you! it won't "kill" the engine if you need it too

Personally I'd go genuine mercury as its rope rather than cord which stretches and stresses.

First pic cord you need.

Second cheapest available

Third the genuine mercury one I'd suggest is better value for money.

Other option is search for black dog marine as they give Ribnet 10% discount and you can order online.

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you need one of these ...........yours looks broken

and a lanyard
How come it looks broken, it looks exactly like the one you referred to?
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Old 15 April 2012, 22:53   #5
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The switch in your picture is the the kill switch - have a look at this picture which shows the kill cord attached.

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Hi

That's the kill switch. Designed so you can flick it back to run to go get the MOB if needed. Here's the kill cord you need. Flick the switch "off" then catch the hoop by inserting it into the run area and switching the switch back up.

Wrap the other end around your leg/wrist. Please don't be tempted to ever run without the cord or with it connected to the motor rather than you! it won't "kill" the engine if you need it too

Personally I'd go genuine mercury as its rope rather than cord which stretches and stresses.

First pic cord you need.

Second cheapest available

Third the genuine mercury one I'd suggest is better value for money.

Other option is search for black dog marine as they give Ribnet 10% discount and you can order online.

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Mate, thanks ever so much for sorting that out for me it's appreciated.
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Old 15 April 2012, 23:02   #7
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No problems. Switch looks serviceable to me. Think the edges are just damaged but the switch itself looks like it will do the job. But the cord and try it. If not get the switch or let me know and I'll post one up. we don't have any cords but the switches are always getting removed from scrapped control boxes!

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Old 15 April 2012, 23:06   #8
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How come it looks broken, it looks exactly like the one you referred to?
look closely the outer casing has snapped off the big curve fits up into the casing with the red switch in the center in the up position to keep it located when its pulled the red switch is pulled down to the off position killing the engine and releasing the lanyard .......


the bits in yellow are broken
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look closely the outer casing has snapped off the big curve fits up into the casing with the red switch in the center in the up position to keep it located when its pulled the red switch is pulled down to the off position killing the engine and releasing the lanyard .......
Pass

Too small to see it

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the switch does look broken, my mariner has a `cradle` the kill switch sits in ...else whats to stop the lanyard falling of..... i think you`ll prob need a new one
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Looks fine to me. Get a cord and try it, if it doesn't replacing it's an easy job.

PS. Wouldn't have thought you'll have any issues with the insurance. The CE category doesn't really mean much in reality - just because its a cat D boat doesn't mean you'd have any using it at sea.
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Old 16 April 2012, 19:13   #12
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Insurance

Hi

In reply to your insurance question:

Although only a RCD CAT D hull, the 2.7 Airdeck is a well respected tender to bigger boats that often have to use outlying moorings, so ventures into the sea are commonplace.

I don't think you would have an issue, unless the policy stated that only a CAT C boat or better could be used in the sea.

I insured a 3.2m SIB last year with Covermyboat, as they have a specific Small Inflatable policy for boats under 11ft. There was nothing in the policy wording to suggest it couldn't be used in open water.

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Old 16 April 2012, 20:50   #13
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Just be careful buying the cheap ones, they break very easily after they have been used for a few months. They suffer in UV light. Seen quite a few break without pulling the switch off. Genuine ones are not cheap for what they are but they work!!
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Kill cords

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Click the link for the kill cord you need. Remember if you order through the website, put the word ribnet into the promotional code to get your discount!!

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