Honwave

CJS · 07 August 2009, 16:55

Hi I am new on here.

Just purchased a new Honwave T3.8 ie with Honda 20HP. The boat is great been out a couple of times already.

My only bitch is how do people manage to get this air floor to 0.8bar without having a coronary along the way? I use a hi speed inflator which takes it to 0.1/2 bar and have to use the foot pump but have never managed to get it above 0.6 bar yet.

Any thoughts.

oujakov · 07 August 2009, 17:11

I asked my self the same question 2 months ago.
I bought a generic Intex double action pump and made a preasure gauge from automotive supplies.
Airfloor in my Quicksilver 330 requires 10psi (~0.6 bar). After practicing to inflate/deflate floor, I know that from fully deflated I need about 50-55 full strokes to get to 10psi. Takes about 1 minute, however the last 15 strokes take 30 seconds from it.

LanceB · 07 August 2009, 23:18

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Originally Posted by CJS

Hi I am new on here.

Just purchased a new Honwave T3.8 ie with Honda 20HP. The boat is great been out a couple of times already.

My only bitch is how do people manage to get this air floor to 0.8bar without having a coronary along the way? I use a hi speed inflator which takes it to 0.1/2 bar and have to use the foot pump but have never managed to get it above 0.6 bar yet.

Any thoughts.

I recently bought a Honwave T32i myself & know the problem - the footpump works but takes forever to get the airdeck up to anything like pressure. I've been ding a far bit of checking on the posts in this forum & on the net generally.

The consensus seems to be that the Scoprega Bravo BST12 HPP (and BATT version which has a rechargeable battery) are the best pumps available for the job & are the only ones to get to the 0.8 Bar required.

http://www.scoprega.it/pdf/pompe/pom...ic%20pumps.pdf

Many also think that their stirrip pumps are the answer but I think the rechargeable verion of the electric pump is the one I would like to go for if possible- the only thing is the cost..they are around £150 !!!!

If anyone out there can help me with one for a better price I'd certainly be very interested.

Hope this helps

oujakov · 08 August 2009, 00:47

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Originally Posted by LanceB

the Scoprega Bravo BST12 HPP (and BATT version which has a rechargeable battery) are the best pumps available for the job

http://www.scoprega.it/pdf/pompe/pom...ic%20pumps.pdf

..they are around £150 !!!!

Hope this helps

It is definitely the best tool for the job!
@ $250.00 CAD I'm putting it on my dream list, as a lot # 231331. Thanks for that Scoprega!

Rogue Wave · 08 August 2009, 01:53

yep thats what my bpy used on is honwave

MikeP · 09 August 2009, 01:10

Our boat is an aerodeck, and I have to honestly say that getting it up to useable pressue has been the least of our worries - although I have not been measuring it with a pressure gauge to check how close we are to the pressure written in the manual - I suspect we might well be less, but it feels firm enough to me.

Although it's probably not my place to suggest this, it might be that the feel of the deck might be a better indication than the numbers on the gauge ? I only suggest this as in other areas of life, I have found gut feel to be more reliable than the numbers coming from a measurement device!

LanceB · 10 August 2009, 23:31

Made the investment (or hope it will be) in a Bravo BST12 HPP at the weekend - cost me £100 with a HR adapter. Was loking at the Batt version but decided it should be fine as it'll be by the car most of the time when inflating.

I'll probably use a jump-start battery pack when I want to be more portable...anyone else tried this & is it successful?

longjohn · 11 August 2009, 12:43

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Originally Posted by LanceB

Made the investment (or hope it will be) in a Bravo BST12 HPP at the weekend - cost me £100 with a HR adapter. Was loking at the Batt version but decided it should be fine as it'll be by the car most of the time when inflating.

I'll probably use a jump-start battery pack when I want to be more portable...anyone else tried this & is it successful?

Yes use the Bravo with a Black & Decker jump start battery pack - works well on my Honwave airdeck 3.8ie - was never able to get the required pressure with a foot pump.

LanceB · 11 August 2009, 16:14

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Originally Posted by longjohn

Yes use the Bravo with a Black & Decker jump start battery pack - works well on my Honwave airdeck 3.8ie - was never able to get the required pressure with a foot pump.

Thanks for that...glad it works for another Honwave/Bravo owner.

Do you just clip the jumpstart leads to the Bravo ones or have you modified in any way?

I have had the same problem as you. Can't get the airdeck to 800mb using the supplied footpump & it was knackering to get it to 600 or over...took ages too!!

The Bravo should be a lifesave I recon & hoping to try it out this weekend

Locozodiac · 11 August 2009, 16:50

This is a cheap ( $ 10.00) excellent performer, Bravo 9 model, it's a dual action inflate/deflate with high volume low pressure port for tubes and low volume high pressure port to inflate any air deck to 1 bar (12 Psi) comes with long hose and Halkey Roberts valve adapter. Just follow recommended inflation instructions.

Happy Sibbing

MikeP · 11 August 2009, 23:20

Hmmm, I really must be doing something wrong with our airdeck, although we've not been using it in a 'performance' situation where waves are a significant factor. I've been inflating it with a dual-action hand pump that takes me about 30 seconds (with no coronary) to get to a hard enough pressure that I can stand on it without any deformation.

Maybe next time we launch near the boatyard we got it from, I'll ask them to check the pressure for me with a gauge before we get going...

longjohn · 11 August 2009, 23:48

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Originally Posted by LanceB

Thanks for that...glad it works for another Honwave/Bravo owner.

Do you just clip the jumpstart leads to the Bravo ones or have you modified in any way?

I have had the same problem as you. Can't get the airdeck to 800mb using the supplied footpump & it was knackering to get it to 600 or over...took ages too!!

The Bravo should be a lifesave I recon & hoping to try it out this weekend

Yeah just clip the Bravo crocs to the ones on the jumpstart battery - but leave the jumpstart crocs on their keepers so there is no chance of shorting.

http://www.robertdyas.co.uk/P~142467...d+Jump+Starter

LanceB · 12 August 2009, 09:21

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Originally Posted by longjohn

Yeah just clip the Bravo crocs to the ones on the jumpstart battery - but leave the jumpstart crocs on their keepers so there is no chance of shorting.

http://www.robertdyas.co.uk/P~142467...d+Jump+Starter

Cheers, that's what I was thinking...glad to know I was on the right track

gibbo500 · 12 August 2009, 09:56

I use a BST12 HP and power pack and has been great.

I do have a problem now in that the pump cuts out at low pressure. It is less than 12 months old and will probably have to send it back and hopefully not to Italy.

Anyone else had this problem or can advise where to send for repair?

Cheers

LanceB · 18 August 2009, 09:53

Used my new Bravo BST 12 HP pump for the first time at the weekend. What am amazing bit if kit it is...just worked brilliantly!!

Used one of the supplied adapters & it pumped up the tubes & airdeck to pressure in a few minutes - checked with manometer & pressures were correct (as dialed in on the pump).

As the pump was doing it's thing we got the other kit ready & we were off in 15-20 mins without any rushing at all.

Very happy with the purchase & worth the money on reflection...highly recommended!!

LanceB · 18 August 2009, 09:59

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Originally Posted by gibbo500

I use a BST12 HP and power pack and has been great.

I do have a problem now in that the pump cuts out at low pressure. It is less than 12 months old and will probably have to send it back and hopefully not to Italy.

Anyone else had this problem or can advise where to send for repair?

Cheers

Was looking on the warranty card to see what it said ref repairs etc & they say you need to contact Scoprega (presumably by phone/email) to get a return authorisation & then post the pump back to them (postage paid) or to your supplier.

Hope this helps.
Lance

tinker · 18 August 2009, 14:55

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Originally Posted by MikeP

Hmmm, I really must be doing something wrong with our airdeck, although we've not been using it in a 'performance' situation where waves are a significant factor. I've been inflating it with a dual-action hand pump that takes me about 30 seconds (with no coronary) to get to a hard enough pressure that I can stand on it without any deformation.

Maybe next time we launch near the boatyard we got it from, I'll ask them to check the pressure for me with a gauge before we get going...

With my zodiac airdeck and a dual action hand pump (form lidl) I pump until the hand pump is straining before I get to the inflated symbol on my Zodiac inflation gauge.

jake 4589 · 18 August 2009, 18:05

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Originally Posted by LanceB

Made the investment (or hope it will be) in a Bravo BST12 HPP at the weekend - cost me £100 with a HR adapter. Was loking at the Batt version but decided it should be fine as it'll be by the car most of the time when inflating.

I'll probably use a jump-start battery pack when I want to be more portable...anyone else tried this & is it successful?

Hi there, have just bought a bravo BST12 HPP, cost me £119.54 including delivery, best price I could find. Just wondering, will I need an adaptor for my honwave or does it come supplied with the pump.

Best wishes

Jake

LanceB · 18 August 2009, 21:38

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Originally Posted by jake 4589

Hi there, have just bought a bravo BST12 HPP, cost me £119.54 including delivery, best price I could find. Just wondering, will I need an adaptor for my honwave or does it come supplied with the pump.

Best wishes

Jake

Hi Jake,

I got an adapter with it but it happens to be the wrong one...it doesn't need a special one though as we used one of the ones supplied & it worked fine for both the tubes & the airdeck.

Lance

CJS · 02 September 2009, 14:28

I purchased a hand pump with pressure gauge for 20 quid and finally managed to get the air floor to that elusive 0.8 bar - it required about 16 - 20 cycles and the last 5 or so I thought the plastic rod connected to the piston would snap! I practically had to push down with all my weight.

Anyway I thought balls to all that effort and purchased a trailer far less hassle.