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Old 01 August 2024, 04:54   #21
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I hope it works out, you will soon know pulling the carb off yours but I think that guide is for the Japan made Tohatsu badged Mariner. I reckon you have the Belgium made model.

I have been reading up a little more and I think you are correct. This upgrade was just a potential bonus as I think 25 hp will be enough……. In fact the 20 is enough. I just couldn’t resist the 25 as it was very local and at what I felt was a very good price
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Old 01 August 2024, 08:54   #22
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The Mariners can be a bit confusing as the slightly earlier ones were Yamaha (I've had those in 20 & 25hp) then Belgium like yours then Tohatsu clones.

I've owned three of the Belgium era in 10/15hp sizes and all have been excellent.

I reckon that 25 will do what you seek nicely.
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The Mariners can be a bit confusing as the slightly earlier ones were Yamaha (I've had those in 20 & 25hp) then Belgium like yours then Tohatsu clones.

I've owned three of the Belgium era in 10/15hp sizes and all have been excellent.

I reckon that 25 will do what you seek nicely.
Thanks this is also an interesting one as it has the tell tale wee hole off the Thermostat. This means that when it starts there is no water form the tell tale which is disconcerting. Then after it heats up after about 45 seconds it splutters and out comes the water. Also the water from the tell tale is very warm which is also disconcerting. As it is from directly off the thermostat housing if you think about it it will always bee quite hot . Got me worried initially as I was buying it
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Old 13 August 2024, 05:17   #24
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Second trip out in the Honwave T40

I am very pleased with our Honwave T35 and T38 and always thought the T40 was a size and weight too far. I think if you inflate and deflate each time this is true. With a trailer however I wondered. Could not resist last year at the Southampton boat show and bought one incl an Extreme bespoke trailer. We have only got round to the second trip out in this boat and we are very impressed indeed. The 20 hp pushes it well to 20 mph 2 up and it is very spacious. Starting to really love this boat.

Putting the engine trim on hole 3 helped a lot.

I still have to work on the gear shift being stiff on the engine though.

Below is a little video of another lovely day out boating

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Most informative would be taking it out to sea on a lively day.
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Old 01 September 2024, 00:42   #26
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Honwave T40 AE3 For breakfast

I originally thought the Honwave T40 was a size too far for a SIB but boy was I wrong. It is however in our view too big for a daily set up boat but paired with a trailer it is a lovely boat.

We had another lovely trip out in her for a breakfast cook up in late August 2024.

Video below 👍

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I would have thought you’d get more than 20mph with that set up, as I always thought the Honwaves were a tad lighter and narrower with a better designed hulls…….but just goes to show.

I get 24mph 3 up with dog and lots of kit with the Volaire, although usually back off to a 16mph for a nice cruising speed, that is during the very few times we’ve got out in reasonable conditions this year on the North Sea.

Just edited to say it just came to me it was the T40 and not the T38, which makes a difference I guess with the T40 being heavier.
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I would have thought you’d get more than 20mph with that set up, as I always thought the Honwaves were a tad lighter and narrower with a better designed hulls…….but just goes to show.

I get 24mph 3 up with dog and lots of kit with the Volaire, although usually back off to a 16mph for a nice cruising speed, that is during the very few times we’ve got out in reasonable conditions this year on the North Sea.

Just edited to say it just came to me it was the T40 and not the T38, which makes a difference I guess with the T40 being heavier.
I the video above I was not flat out but yes this is the T40 which is a very heavy beast. I have still got the 25hp yam 2 stroke to try on her but that might be a little while yet. I have just bought a little tach also to see what RPM the engine is doing.

To be honest the speed I am getting with the Merc 20 hp is fine for us and the interesting thing is when you transition from displacement to planing it just does it flawlessly without even noticing.

I never thought I would get the T40 but I am so pleased I did as it is an amazing boat but only as a trailer boat or one you take in a big car to set up for say a weeks boating. Certainly not a daily set up boat. This is what our T38 is for.
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I have just bought a little tach also to see what RPM the engine is doing.
Be careful Dennis, knowing technical stuff like the RPM and there's a danger you could slip into the realms of being a "prop nerd"
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I have still got the 25hp yam 2 stroke to try on her

I have just bought a little tach also to see what RPM the engine is

interesting thing is when you transition from displacement to planing it just does it flawlessly without even noticing.

but only as a trailer boat set up . Certainly not a daily set up boat. This is what our T38 is for.
I would imagine the 25 would be a good pairing for being trailered, because on the odd occasion the 20 suzuki could do with just a little more power.... but like you its fine most of the time although I've no experience of 2 stroke to compare if that makes a difference.

Yip I find what i guess people mean by saying going over the hump in the Volaire isn't that distinct at times depending on load, trim and prop I'm using.

You could argue the Volaire is amongst the best and worst of both worlds equally.

But it does the job for us for now.....getting time and weather to get out at all being our largest battle this year so far.
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Be careful Dennis, knowing technical stuff like the RPM and there's a danger you could slip into the realms of being a "prop nerd"
I will try my best. For many years I flew Radio control planes and have about £1000 of spare props in a box. I know what it can be like. With planes this could make a big difference I don't believe with boats the same level is true. What I do know is on boats you can spend way more on props experimenting and faffing for little improvement. But each to their own
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