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27 July 2014, 14:38
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Honwave transom wheels
Can anyone please tell me if Honda wheels for twin tabs bend to one side? I bought a pair of cheaper ones and are crap to say the least. Not bad when the boats not loaded, but put the motor and they bend sideways making the boat tip over. Not to mention the stress on the transom. I'd like to change them for Honwave wheels, but i'm a tad apprehensive thinking they will do the same. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading.
Dave
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27 July 2014, 16:02
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Country: UK - England
Town: teesside
Boat name: magic
Make: humber 5.5
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sorry cant help but I was thinking about buying some cheap ones on ebay now iv read this ill save me money
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27 July 2014, 16:18
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Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
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Hi Davo
I've been looking at renewing mine and googled it and Honwave came up with images. Suggest you give it a try
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27 July 2014, 16:53
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I've looked jambo and thats why i'm unsure, because the cheap ones look the similar as the Honwave wheels.
Beerbelly, the ones i got are the Europa ones with the spring pins.
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27 July 2014, 17:05
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Have you tried Trem wheels
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27 July 2014, 18:30
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http://www.rib.net/forum/f8/launch-wheels-49961.html
http://www.rib.net/forum/f50/europa-...els-48420.html
http://www.rib.net/forum/f50/questio...els-35964.html
Since you already own them, without any major modifications I would try using a little rope to hold everything in place and see if they are usable. The super large zip ties are strong and some Gorilla/duct tape could keep them from moving. Using the zip ties you could put a rope down low across from one wheel to the other, which would keep them from spreading out apart. Then use another rope, or maybe the same one all the way across, mounted just above the tyres to hold the wheels from flopping inward. Zip tie the rope to the stainless legs just above the tyres. Tye to the upper part to the top of the tubes. This should be pretty easy to untie and remove from the topside, then you just have to deal with them as normal, but your flip up option might be gone, or it may still work, although it will have the rope still attached. You could put a quick clip to the rope that goes across on one side. You could leave them tied to the boat so you don't drop the launching wheels.
Crappy drawing but you might understand better what I mean. The green lines should go around the outside of the tubes!
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27 July 2014, 18:53
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Thanks Peter, but i've modified them by drilling 12m holes through them. A 12m bolt goes through the stem and the bracket and all seems well until they are on the boat. Then they spread out. Its something worth thinking about though. Thanks.
Jambo, they are the type i want to buy but unsure if they will give the same problem as my cheapies.
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27 July 2014, 19:20
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so is it the steel tubes bending /flexing the cheap ones are not exactly cheap at £130 or so I have seen some labelled as light weight and some heavy duty
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27 July 2014, 19:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
Make: Honwave 3.5AE
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Might not help but I fitted a set of the genuine Honwave straight wheels to a 3.5 Aluminium floor a couple of days ago & the quality seemed excellent with a good sticker to mount them in the right place.
I hate drilling through a perfectly good transom though !!!!!
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27 July 2014, 23:10
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I've got the Trem wheels on my t38 ie2. Cost about £170 and that included the nuts and bolts.
Very pleased with them, no problems with outboard etc. onboard.
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28 July 2014, 03:29
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I have just sold my Honwave 3.8 with the said Honda cranked launching wheels and although I was not too happy at paying £205, at least they worked well. The Honda are made by Trem unlike the ones on ebay at around £135 which are made in China.
I was advised by a certain supplier that the ebay cheepies were a rip off and do NOT carry much weight, well I don't know about that but I do know the Honda wheels work fine with a 15hp sat on the back.
Phil
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28 July 2014, 13:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beerbelly
so is it the steel tubes bending /flexing the cheap ones are not exactly cheap at £130 or so I have seen some labelled as light weight and some heavy duty
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Not really sure. Theres about 3ml play or so and they seem fine at the bracket but its enough to bend the wheels inwards enough to tip the boat. When i swap the wheels over so the wheel face is facing under the boat they bend outwards, and just to say manage to get launched. Not sure if they are light or heavy duty, but the boat is only carrying a 6hp and minimal gear.
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28 July 2014, 13:44
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Thanks Ralph and Phil. I'l buy some Trem/Honwave ones.
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29 July 2014, 21:03
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I unfortunately bought copy wheels which were clearly rubbish, what's the best way to fill the holes on the transom?
Ordered my proper honda ones
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29 July 2014, 21:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simmcgil
I unfortunately bought copy wheels which were clearly rubbish, what's the best way to fill the holes on the transom?
Ordered my proper honda ones
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I would try and use the old holes if possible. But use the old or use new, I'd always use a Sikaflex 291 sealant in the holes to protect the transom from getting sea water in it.
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29 July 2014, 21:22
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Thanks I'll
Do that!
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30 July 2014, 03:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simmcgil
I unfortunately bought copy wheels which were clearly rubbish, what's the best way to fill the holes on the transom?
Ordered my proper honda ones
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Good luck with your new wheels. Please let me know how they perform. Thanks.
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31 July 2014, 22:29
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Well so far tried walking it with engine on board and it's steady as a rock unlike the cheap ones from eBay
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01 August 2014, 17:19
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Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated.
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