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Old 19 August 2013, 14:09   #1
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Inflating a Honwave T38 - Valve pops out!

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I have taken the boat out twice now and used an electric pump on each occasion to inflate it but, annoyingly, the inflator hose end always pops out of the inflation valve - I'm wondering if there is a way to avoid having to sit there holding it in place?

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Old 19 August 2013, 14:39   #2
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Haven't you got a proper Honwave fitting on your pump hose?

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Haven't you got a proper Honwave fitting on your pump hose?

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You, sir, are a star!!
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Well I try!

Consider buying the proper Honwave hose which they sell as a spare (blue ribbed that comes with their footpump). It has the adaptor on the end and joined to the rather short Bravo hose it makes reaching the valves much easier.

I'm sure Honda wanted almost £5 for just the adaptor but hose with adaptor was under £8 which seemed better value to me.
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Well I try!

Consider buying the proper Honwave hose which they sell as a spare (blue ribbed that comes with their footpump). It has the adaptor on the end and joined to the rather short Bravo hose it makes reaching the valves much easier.

I'm sure Honda wanted almost £5 for just the adaptor but hose with adaptor was under £8 which seemed better value to me.
I did actually get the foot pump with my boat, hadn't thought to check it as I've always used the electric pump that I bought at the same time as the boat. It does have the adapter on the end which I have just cut off and will attach to my electric pump hose now

Thanks again dude!
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Depending on your storage situation and float plans, you might want to invest in another adaptor, and carry the footpump with you (I assume you're not taking the electric pump with you?)

Having a method of topping off/reinflating tubes on the water is a good thing.

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Depending on your storage situation and float plans, you might want to invest in another adaptor, and carry the footpump with you (I assume you're not taking the electric pump with you?)

Having a method of topping off/reinflating tubes on the water is a good thing.

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I hadn't considered this, and I don't bring any pump with me but then I am not venturing into the sea for some time and for now, only floating around inland waters.
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Is the hose end adapter a push or a push and screw type adapter ? If being a push type you could wrap tight some rounds of 3M electric tape to widen hose valve adapter to sit and stay firmly attached onto air valve.

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Is the hose end adapter a push or a push and screw type adapter ? If being a push type you could wrap tight some rounds of 3M electric tape to widen hose valve adapter to sit and stay firmly attached onto air valve.

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Its unfortunately a push on adapter with a small bore, so I wrapped self-amalgamating tape around it, then attached the hose and used a hose-clamp around it, seems good so far
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The only down issue using push on valve adapters is that apart being sometimes popped out, they don't have a middle push rod that pushes and mantains air valve open for less knee stress while inflating as needs much less foot pressure specially when inflating with a foot pump.

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The only down issue using push on valve adapters is that apart being sometimes popped out, they don't have a middle push rod that pushes and mantains air valve open for less knee stress while inflating as needs much less foot pressure specially when inflating with a foot pump.

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Sorry, I misunderstood your question - it is indeed the twist and lock type, I was referring to the other end of the adapter and connecting it to my existing pump hose
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My Suzuki SIB also has this type of fitting and its been giving me trouble with getting a reading on any gauge so i dont know when the floor is full? Any suggestion on a manual pump that will give me a reading would be amazing!

I tried using an adapted bike pump and a Bravo pressure gauge on a foot pump but neither worked?
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My Suzuki SIB also has this type of fitting and its been giving me trouble with getting a reading on any gauge so i dont know when the floor is full? Any suggestion on a manual pump that will give me a reading would be amazing!

I tried using an adapted bike pump and a Bravo pressure gauge on a foot pump but neither worked?
With my boat came a plug in meter to read the pressures, you simply screw it into the value. My electric pump has a setting on it so that it automatically stops when it reaches that pressure, I cannot imagine pumping up my boat manually - get an electric pump!!
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I have a battery powered pump that fills and deflates it in no time (no gauge) but its just finishing off the floor to 0.80 bar that i'm struggling with...trying to do things on the cheap too!
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Just upgrade your pump, mine was £100 and automatically inflates all the way to 0.8 and stops all by itself!
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Or get the Bravo alum 4 hand double action pump that comes with a gauge. Perfect for tube and air deck inflation, works much better than any other foor pump.

Air valve adapeters must keep pressed at all times the middle air valve pin in order to achieve a reading.

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I've got the bravo stirrup pump with gauge attached in the top..the gauge only gives the reading on the downward pump then resets to zero. Is there any way of maintaining the pressure for me to read it when pumping has stopped?
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Can you post some pics of that pump of yours to check that model, is that a hand or foot pump with gauge ?

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It's one of these, the little gauge screws into the middle of the handle.

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I think I've just realised the problem and it's an obvious one.. The one way values on the tubes will mean the pressure isn't in the gauge won't it..

How can I get round this without losing pressure when detaching the pump though?
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