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28 April 2021, 09:06
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Country: UK - England
Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20 efi & 9.8 2s
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Originally Posted by pumpkinking
Could you not just clamp the motor to the trolley as suggested, then when it’s in the car swivel the motor as you do when steering the boat
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28 April 2021, 09:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
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You’ll probably struggle to turn motor anywhere near full lock on a sack truck type stand due to the uprights/handles.
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28 April 2021, 09:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
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Just set it up as though it’s on the transom
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28 April 2021, 12:33
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Make: Elling kB 350
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Chipko. Love the dolly you made. Great idea. I think I’ll be making one myself even though my engine will only be around 26kg. It’ll certainly take the strain out of lifting it into the back of my car.
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02 May 2021, 17:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Weymouth
Boat name: The Folly
Make: Boatworld
Length: 3m +
Engine: Outward 15hp 4 strok
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thanks guys, after all the feedback and input we've decided to keep the engine and instead get a trailer, its an expense we hadn't planned on but getting rid of the need to lift the enginer more than a couple of times a year, and having the boat ready to go and easier to launch on a slipway all adds up to the right answer (i hope!)
Anyway thanks again
Paul
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03 May 2021, 10:00
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Make: Zodiac
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Engine: Mercury 20hp
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Originally Posted by weymouth_sib
thanks for the response Tony, it's good to know that i'm not alone in this approach :-)
On the wheels when you say they "curve under the transom" can you tell me the make / model so i can see what you mean?
thanks
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Hi Paul - sorry slow to get get back but the transom wheels I have are made by Osculati - I bought them on eBay and I think they’re really good. They’re the 350mm-ish ones that invert up when on the water. There’s a drop nose pin that means you can completely remove them if they get in the way.
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03 May 2021, 10:24
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
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The wheels I usually favour (for reasons other than balance) are straight leg types but with the usual transom angle the tyres themselves on the end of longish legs end up somewhat forward of the powerhead CofG and its not too bad as long as you keep the fuel tank and kit near the transom when trundling.
The wheels Tonus shows makes this situation even easier... as long as you fit them swinging forward... a couple of times I've seen the fitted swinging backwards which must make the outfit really heavy at the bow handle.
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03 May 2021, 13:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: Weymouth
Boat name: The Folly
Make: Boatworld
Length: 3m +
Engine: Outward 15hp 4 strok
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Originally Posted by Tonus
Hi Paul - sorry slow to get get back but the transom wheels I have are made by Osculati - I bought them on eBay and I think they’re really good. They’re the 350mm-ish ones that invert up when on the water. There’s a drop nose pin that means you can completely remove them if they get in the way.
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thanks Tonus i've bought a set just like them, fitted and working fine :-)
Paul
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04 May 2021, 15:51
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Make: Zodiac
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Good stuff Paul glad to hear.
Fenlander, I never thought about that before… that the transom angle with the straight leg would make the wheel sit under the boat. Good to keep in mind.
I did find that throwing a bag with the anchor and other bits over the back of the transom helps too, so some of the gear is hanging on the right side of the centre of gravity. Once you start trundling it becomes a doddle… 500 m the other day was very easy.
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04 May 2021, 15:53
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Saying that, in the high winds last night I watched the front of my boat Bob off of its stand and float about... when the wind got under the cover!
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04 May 2021, 16:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Weymouth
Boat name: The Folly
Make: Boatworld
Length: 3m +
Engine: Outward 15hp 4 strok
Join Date: Apr 2021
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Originally Posted by Fenlander
The wheels I usually favour (for reasons other than balance) are straight leg types but with the usual transom angle the tyres themselves on the end of longish legs end up somewhat forward of the powerhead CofG and its not too bad as long as you keep the fuel tank and kit near the transom when trundling.
The wheels Tonus shows makes this situation even easier... as long as you fit them swinging forward... a couple of times I've seen the fitted swinging backwards which must make the outfit really heavy at the bow handle.
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so just to check my understanding, the further forward the wheels the better, so that the engine in effect is counter-balancing the rest of the boat (as much as possible)?
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04 May 2021, 22:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
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Well the range available from slightly rearwards of some to the curved under is not massive but every bit of engine weight acting behind the wheels helps ease the load on the bow handle when pulling along.
As said above even hanging stuff over the rear of the transom perhaps in dry bags helps when you have loads of kit.
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10 May 2021, 12:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20 efi & 9.8 2s
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Originally Posted by chipko
In fairness I think most four strokes will tolerate transported front down as long as the power head is higher than the leg. No different to when raised on the boat.
If you just want something to aid sliding into the car we knocked up a simple dolly on castors for our unwieldy Mariner 20. Shown here with a tiny 3.5 for illustration as our 20 now lives on a small rib and only goes by car at service time.
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Thanks Chipko, made one out of some OSB I had just to try it. Works brilliantly, so much easier to get the OB in and out of the back of the truck.
I will make a better one out of ply when I'm back home.
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