My Suzumar 320 sib

[Max...]

Pointless reading reviews like that -just like cars - Merc, BMW, Audi, Ford, VW etc - they all have issues that people moan about online but the *vast* majority of people have no real issues to talk of. Do you think all these huge worldwide companies would still be in business if the engines were cr@p?!

Exactly the same with marine engines - just stick with a big known brand - ie Mercury/Mariner, Honda, Tohatsu, Suzuki, Yamaha etc and stay away from the cheaper Chinese brands - they generally are perceived to be lower quality with less reliability but regardless will lose you more come resale in depreciation and hassle to re-sell than you will gain.

And like others here I'd really advocate going bigger than 2.5 - OK, the 9.8 might be out of your spec but there are lots of other options inbetween.

[Amukinado]

Originally Posted by Max...

Pointless reading reviews like that -just like cars - Merc, BMW, Audi, Ford, VW etc - they all have issues that people moan about online but the *vast* majority of people have no real issues to talk of. Do you think all these huge worldwide companies would still be in business if the engines were cr@p?!

Exactly the same with marine engines - just stick with a big known brand - ie Mercury/Mariner, Honda, Tohatsu, Suzuki, Yamaha etc and stay away from the cheaper Chinese brands - they generally are perceived to be lower quality with less reliability but regardless will lose you more come resale in depreciation and hassle to re-sell than you will gain.

You have a good point there. My world is mountain biking and usually user reviews are very biased. Either they love the brand and make it seem like it's the best bike ever or they feel like they've invested poorly and say it's the worst bike ever. Either way, most of them are far from the truth.

Originally Posted by Max...

And like others here I'd really advocate going bigger than 2.5 - OK, the 9.8 might be out of your spec but there are lots of other options inbetween.

That's just the thing... I can't find anything in my budget. 4 strokes are still pretty recent and it's hard to find 5 or 6 hp outboards. And when I do, the prices are always ridiculous...

[Max...]

Can you not buy in the UK and get it shipped over?

[Amukinado]

Maybe. But wouldn't the postage be insane?

And then I don't know if I could register it as things tend to get really bureaucratic in here.

I don't know how it works in the uk, but in here I need to have my boat inspected and registered so I can fish with it. The registration has to be made by the first owner with the original receipt. If he doesn't do it and sells the boat or the engine to someone else, they can no longer be registered.

So when buying used I need a declaration from the marine delegation where the boat with the engine was registered saying that the engine was detached from the original boat.

I also need a seller contract with his signature certified.

Then I can get my boat a new inspection and register the engine with my boat.

Plus the process isn't cheap at all.

So if the papers or the process turns out to be different, most likely I cannot register the engine.

[Landlockedpirate]

I think sometimes people forget that not everyone has an unlimited budget.

Is the 2.5hp Yamaha a good engine ? Its a good as any other small 4 stroke.

Will it move the boat ? Yes, but quite slowly.

Is it the perfect engine for the boat ? No, but you have a plan to upgrade when money allows.

Get out and buy it before someone else does.

[Amukinado]

Originally Posted by Landlockedpirate

I think sometimes people forget that not everyone has an unlimited budget.

Is the 2.5hp Yamaha a good engine ? Its a good as any other small 4 stroke.

Will it move the boat ? Yes, but quite slowly.

Is it the perfect engine for the boat ? No, but you have a plan to upgrade when money allows.

Get out and buy it before someone else does.

That's the way I think. I know it's not the engine this boat deserves but it's something. And right know it's probably the only viable solution I have. Plus, it drinks 10 times less fuel than the Tohatsu 9.9 (2 stroke), which is a big deal for me and means more time in the sea.

[Locozodiac]

It's not the same being just a boater, than being a boater and a mechanic or one inclined to mechanics too. First ones usually receives the worts reviews of both world.

Although a 2 strokes 9.9 engine consumes 10 times more fuel compared to a 2.5, will have 10 times more fun & speed while boating those nice beaches.

-Why don't you sell one of your bikes and go for a larger 9.9-15 HP engine, that way will spend mpore time on water than on dirty roads, specially during summer months.

Happy Boating

[Amukinado]

Originally Posted by Locozodiac

It's not the same being just a boater, than being a boater and a mechanic or one inclined to mechanics too. First ones usually receives the worts reviews of both world.

Although a 2 strokes 9.9 engine consumes 10 times more fuel compared to a 2.5, will have 10 times more fun & speed while boating those nice beaches.

-Why don't you sell one of your bikes and go for a larger 9.9-15 HP engine, that way will spend mpore time on water than on dirty roads, specially during summer months.

Happy Boating

I have just one mountain bike and one motorcycle. Can't really get rid of them. And btw, I don't ride on dirty roads... I only ride trails!

[Amukinado]

Today I gave the boat a good scrub. It's looking a bit better, but I'll have to get some specific product to really make it shine. The dolphins are starting to come out slowly.

[Amukinado]

Finally have an engine! I went against everyone's advice and got the Yamaha as it was the only viable option I had atm. Tried it with 3 adults onboard and it was ok. Slow but very acceptable. Strolled around nicely. Engine didn't seem to be struggling or anything.



Final budget was 830€ (boat+tow+outboard). I still had some extra expenses (safety equipment, etc) but still seems very reasonable to me. Now it's time to get it on sea.

[Amukinado]

These past few days I've been doing some light repairs on my sib and I've noticed that the transom is starting to disconnect from the joint in the tube. This only happened in one of the tubes. The other one still seems solid.
What kind of glue should I use to solve this problem? I've tried contact glue but it didn't work. Hot glue did the trick but I'm not too sure it will hold with some abuse.

[Amukinado]

Took me some time but I finally got the boat 100% ready. Here's the list of things I did:

-Proper rub to remove all the paint and dirt stains
-Removed dolphins and old register tags
-Repainted the outboard mount
-Repaired some eroded and decayed parts on the wood floor
-Repainted and revarnished all the wood parts
-Replaced the old rope eyelets
-Replaced the old rope
-Glued the part of the transom that was coming apart
-Painted new register tags
-Got all the paperwork done

And I think that's about it.





I'm still considering painting the floor panels with a anti slip black spray that I got.

By the way, getting all the paperwork done was a nightmare. The bureaucracy in here is just unbelievable... The total cost of the paperwork was about 200€.
Do you guys duel with this kind of horse crap in the UK?

[Landlockedpirate]

Well done, it looks fantastic, but i'm missing the Dolphins already

We dont have any nation wide compulsory requirements or paperwork for boats under 24m.

[Amukinado]

Originally Posted by Landlockedpirate

Well done, it looks fantastic, but i'm missing the Dolphins already

We dont have any nation wide compulsory requirements or paperwork for boats under 24m.

Thanks mate.

Everything is just so damn complicated in here. That's partially why this country doesn't accomplish great things anymore. The government is always busy looking for new ways to get more money from the tax payers than to find real solutions for our economic problems.

[Max...]

Originally Posted by Amukinado

By the way, getting all the paperwork done was a nightmare. The bureaucracy in here is just unbelievable... The total cost of the paperwork was about 200€.
Do you guys duel with this kind of horse crap in the UK?

Looks awesome.

Nope, in the UK any idiot can buy virtually any boat he likes and endanger himself and others immediately!

[Amukinado]

Originally Posted by Max...

Looks awesome.

Nope, in the UK any idiot can buy virtually any boat he likes and endanger himself and others immediately!

Ahah, here's the same... He just has to pay!

[Amukinado]

Here's a vid from last month where the Suzumar is one of the main stars. I'm the bearded guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfgwkD2sEL4

[Amukinado]

Originally Posted by Amukinado

Here's a vid from last month where the Suzumar is one of the main stars. I'm the bearded guy.

The link is broken because the video was re uploaded. Here's the new link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuC-vHviWIo

Photos coming soon.

[Amukinado]

Today I sold the outboard (with a 10€ loss) and now it's ime for an upgrade!

I am looking at 10 to 15 hp 4 strokes but the 2 strokes haven't been discarded.

This is the one I'm more inclined to:
Motor Mercury 9.9hp - Motores para barcos no Porto

This 2 stroke is also interesting for half the price:
motor 9.9 yamaha - à venda - Barcos, Aveiro - CustoJusto.pt

[Fenlander]

I am biased towards 2-strokes so I'd look at the Yamaha of those two... and it save a lot of money.

But remember that 9.9hp is the same weight as the 15hp in the range so I'd hold out for a 15hp.