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12 March 2012, 15:37
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: dundee
Boat name: harika
Make: compass
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Engine: mariner 4 hp 2 strok
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need some expert advice
hi
on starting my mariner 4 hp 2 stroke for the first time this year i ran engine in wheely bin? ,, however there was some fumes ,and the next morning the water level in bin was very oily around rim ,,-not to much in water,, can i assume this is normal for first time in 6 months and it was just the exhaust fumes that caused this ,, i checked oil level witha cable tie ,and the oil seemed ok ,and nice and clean , oil around wheely bin ,just made me panic .. hopefully some of you guys ,will put my mind at rest . thanks in advance for any reply,s that may be forthcoming
harry.
p.s. oil fumes were burning off after 10-15 minutes of engine running
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12 March 2012, 15:39
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Country: UK - England
Town: Northampton
Make: RibTec
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Engine: Outbaord mariner 75
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Sounds fairly normal to me.
Me 2st smokes alot first start any time as its generally been ideling up a river at 5knts. :-)
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12 March 2012, 15:46
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: dundee
Boat name: harika
Make: compass
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Engine: mariner 4 hp 2 strok
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jezza2011
Sounds fairly normal to me.
Me 2st smokes alot first start any time as its generally been ideling up a river at 5knts. :-)
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thank,s for reply just the oil around bin made me panic ???
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12 March 2012, 16:46
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Town: Oakland CA
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In 6 months idle, all kinds of stuff can happen: oil leaking past rings is the most likely culprit in your case (at least as far as I know.)
Watch the temp carefully for the first 5 or so minutes, and take your baseline of operation then. Things will have settled back down in the first couple of minutes, I'd assume.
jky
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12 March 2012, 17:33
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Town: NorCal
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Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
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Now you understand why two strokes were banned. (Exception direct injection)
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12 March 2012, 17:33
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: snagglepuss
Make: Shetland
Length: 6m +
Engine: 90 hp Outboard
Join Date: Nov 2011
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hi
when was it last serviced?
Dave
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12 March 2012, 18:42
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I would have thought oil in the water is perfectly normal (for a 2 stroke), there will always be some unburnt oil being sent out with the exhaust gas. I have always noticed the same thing myself when running my small engines in tubs. I would expect it to be worse if the engine has sat around for a while as the petrol will evaporate increasing the oil to petrol ratio in the carb.
I would add I am no expert - these are just my own observations and theories!
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12 March 2012, 18:45
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: dundee
Boat name: harika
Make: compass
Length: under 3m
Engine: mariner 4 hp 2 strok
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clydeoutboards
hi
when was it last serviced?
Dave
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hi
it was serviced when i got it -aug-sept ,and i only ran for maybe 30 min ..
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12 March 2012, 18:46
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Oops, sorry misread the engine spec; thought it said 4-stroke.
Normal for a 2-stroke.
jky
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12 March 2012, 18:48
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Town: dundee
Boat name: harika
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomKat
I would have thought oil in the water is perfectly normal (for a 2 stroke), there will always be some unburnt oil being sent out with the exhaust gas. I have always noticed the same thing myself when running my small engines in tubs. I would expect it to be worse if the engine has sat around for a while as the petrol will evaporate increasing the oil to petrol ratio in the carb.
I would add I am no expert - these are just my own observations and theories!
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just to say when it was put to bed last year i ran the carb dry and emptied fuel tank when i ran yesterday it was fresh fuel-50-1 as advised .. hope that throws some light on problem
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12 March 2012, 19:09
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Town: dundee
Boat name: harika
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Originally Posted by Peter_C
Now you understand why two strokes were banned. (Exception direct injection)
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your a BIG] help....lol
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12 March 2012, 19:14
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: snagglepuss
Make: Shetland
Length: 6m +
Engine: 90 hp Outboard
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Hi
if it has been serviced and based on what else you have done it does sound normal (for a 2 stroke which should not have been banned as I have shares in a few oil companies!) and so have fun and use it!. All 2 strokes smoke a bit and I even like the smell.
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12 March 2012, 19:31
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Town: Fort William
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clydeoutboards
All 2 strokes smoke a bit and I even like the smell.
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I have some Strawberry scented 2 stroke oil in the trials bike, its luurvly!!
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12 March 2012, 19:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A1an
I have some Strawberry scented 2 stroke oil in the trials bike, its luurvly!!
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I'd like to run that stuff through my twin 150's.
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12 March 2012, 19:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Screaming04
I'd like to run that stuff through my twin 150's.
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Your missus would think you have been hold up in a hotel room with some wench with cheap perfume and not playing out on the boat!
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12 March 2012, 19:42
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mmmm thats sounds kinky. I like the smell as god intended it to be!
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12 March 2012, 19:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Northampton
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I love the smell of 2 stoke marine engines in the morning :-)
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12 March 2012, 20:02
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hi
reading ,reply,s you have taken a bit of pressure off me , engine runs great ,i was just concerned when i seen the rim of oil round the wheelie bin the next day , thanks ,all for your input ,, i am on website every day trying to learn,, my phylosophy/ is -never be ashamed to show your ignorance when there is opportunity to gain knowledge
harry..
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15 March 2012, 02:05
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Town: Nuneaton
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Make: ring
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check your gear box isn`t leaking .. are you using last years fuel or new.. and 2`s do smoke ..i`ve been told to use 50.1 even if its a 100.1 though more oil ,means smoke
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15 March 2012, 14:24
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: dundee
Boat name: harika
Make: compass
Length: under 3m
Engine: mariner 4 hp 2 strok
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bingosucks
check your gear box isn`t leaking .. are you using last years fuel or new.. and 2`s do smoke ..i`ve been told to use 50.1 even if its a 100.1 though more oil ,means smoke
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hi
i,m using new fuel and 50-1 as advised couldnt get filler plug loose , but i got the top one loose ,inserted a little bit of string and seems to be full with nice clean oil , but will get it checked properly a.s.p., thanks for your interest.
harry
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