New Boat

cantona · 25 October 2014, 20:05

Well, I have got what I think is an absolute bargain, an XPRO 3D VIB 310 Sib, Brand new ex demo, never been in the water, 3 year warranty, and all for £600.00. Picked her up today and she is gorgeous

3.1 metres long x 1.6 wide, 42 cm tubes, fixed air floor and V hull, 36 KG total weight, been looking for ages, she looks like the triplet to the Honwave and Sunsport SIBs. She came complete with Boat Cover, Two Aluminium seats, 2 Seat Covers and Foot Pump,

I also picked up a 500 l/min high pressure 12 volt pump for £60.00.

From what I can tell she appears to be European made, possibly French, which is where they seem to be most widespread, the only ones I can see on the internet are either the superlights or the black xpro commando type, mine is the same just dark and light grey.
I would post a pic but havent got a clue how to. They are on my phone but I am not the most technologically up to date type. I put her together indoors tonight, it was raining outside

Now just hoping for a 9HP 2 stroke to go with her.

Cantona

ShinyShoe · 25 October 2014, 20:30

If you are using the ap on ur phone click the + next to the quick reply. Then on the new screen the three dots in top right corner and pick attach photo.

Roadie · 26 October 2014, 12:01

I have a 3.8m xpro commando rib. Great boat. Can't fault it at all

philpot · 27 October 2014, 20:54

500l/min does not mean it will handle the pressure needed for high pressure air floors. It would be worth checking the pressure gained with a pressure gauge, again available on ebay. I use a Bravo because it was the only pump that went up to 1.0 bar pressure and as most air floors require .7 - .8 bar pressure, the Bravo gave me a little margin for pump wear, the price however is £125.

I hope your pump does the trick for you but at £60, I doubt it.

Phil

cantona · 27 October 2014, 22:50

Good question Philpott, it is a Genovo Power GP80, Adjustable from 10KPA (0.1 bar) to 80KPA (0.8 bar) so hopefully should be ok.
The tubes inflate to 0.25 bar (25 kpa) it says, is that about normal for most SIBS?
cantona

philpot · 27 October 2014, 23:04

Sounds like a good find in that case.

Phil

cantona · 01 November 2014, 21:10

Philpott, looks like you were correct unfortunately, the pump seems to stall at a way to low pressure despite it being supposedly rated to a max of 80 KPA, I have to finish both the tubes and the floor with the foor pump, next on the list is a pressure gauge I guess.

Cantona

philpot · 03 November 2014, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantona

Philpott, looks like you were correct unfortunately, the pump seems to stall at a way to low pressure despite it being supposedly rated to a max of 80 KPA, I have to finish both the tubes and the floor with the foor pump, next on the list is a pressure gauge I guess.

Cantona

Sorry to hear that but it does not surprise me. I have seen on ebay a number of pumps that suggest their ability is suited to inflating sib's but don't meet up to the promise. I can only suggest you buy a Bravo pump which WILL rise to the occasion.

This is the one I use
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-BRAVO-...item27ba97ea13

Here is a suitable pressure gauge if the fitting is correct for your valves.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inflatable...item5d433e4019

Phil

cantona · 03 November 2014, 22:24

Philpott,

just a thought, I was using a home made extension from the car to the pump made from 27 amp cable about 10 meters long, don't suppose that was making the pump run at a lower power???

anyway its no big deal to just finish off with the foot pump.

thanks again

cantona

philpot · 03 November 2014, 23:58

Not my field but I believe adding length to the cables may have some effect to power output. To be honest I would carry out tests when you have a pressure gauge so that you can check pressures with / without cable extension. To finish off with a manual pump is fine but again knowing what pressure you have in the floor is important for the performance of the hull / engine.

Phil

Fenlander · 04 November 2014, 00:14

>>>27 amp cable about 10 meters long

It may well be the issue. I made up such a cable for my Bravo which was in theory rated to do the job but in reality it made the pump struggle. It was longer than I needed so I cut it in half which solved the problem.

My Bravo runs better with the car engine idling too.

>>Edit: I thought I put something in a post ages ago about this, here it is...

Just a small update. I said in the first post..... **I've already made up a heavy duty 5m extension cable (pump is a max 20a draw, I used 25a cable)**

Well I had made it up but not tried it. Turns out the guys who sold me the cable thought they were doing me a favour supplying 8m of cable. This was just too long re voltage drop despite being 25a cable. It was dropping under 9v at the pump making it stutter on the final bit of the air floor.

Cut the extension lead in half to still give a useful extra 4m and it now stays above 11v, and the pump runs far better.

Original thread... http://www.rib.net/forum/f50/bravo-b...iew-43268.html

philpot · 04 November 2014, 13:43

I used to use my car battery to inflate my sib but now use a spare leisure battery which is mobile and needs charging once every 4 or 5 trips out, I do use the pump to deflate as well. It is just not so easy to inflate close to the car at some venues I take the sib so this works far better for me.

Phil

cantona · 04 November 2014, 19:51

As always, really helpful, thanks again guys

cantona