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24 June 2021, 10:33
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For anyone in search of a clear instruction video, this looks helpful. I will give it a go soon
https://youtu.be/3AqIx7hCpC8
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24 June 2021, 15:31
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Gave the dealer a call and he recommended either the
Bravo btp 12 pump
Or to work on both 220 and 12v an other Bravo pump which costed almost double the BTP pump. Can find quite some reviews that are rapping about this great, to the eye simple, pump.
Think I just go over to the dealer and get the BTP 12 version
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24 June 2021, 15:59
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Country: UK - England
Town: chorley
Boat name: CAL
Make: Jago
Length: 3m +
Engine: Outboard 6hp
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I'm gonna blow mine up shortly to fit the transom wheels.
I'll do a video.
The bravo pumps are overpriced and under featured now in my opinion.
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24 June 2021, 16:40
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Town: Aberdeenshire
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Kind of regret buying the 12v one I did with the sib and ob....not very quick either I've read here....should have went with the rechargeable ones.
Something to consider buying later when the wife's not watching!
Can always just use an extra 12v battery for now that I can get....which basically will work out to the same thing I suppose.
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24 June 2021, 17:07
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Town: chorley
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For a tad under 150 folding ones I can't see how anything would be better.
https://youtu.be/Mzr8MWKrQHs35x190
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24 June 2021, 18:09
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Wow that’s 1 hour and 10 minutes faster then my setup yesterday :-S
The bottomplates and especially the sidestingers took a whole wrestling match compared to your clip.
Works like a charm! The pump indeed seems to perform better then the videos I’ve seen from the bravo pumps.
Thanks a lot for this very insightful video!
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24 June 2021, 18:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wazzajnr
For a tad under 150 folding ones I can't see how anything would be better.
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Maybe 2 of them
PD said he bought the the Sevylor 12v pump that I have coming next week with the sib, but he also bought another HIKS one (which he says is much faster but unsure if rechargable or 12v) and runs them both at once
But to be honest watching the faff of putting in the ali floor was what made me go for the airfloor, although once you are up to it...you'll be fine.
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24 June 2021, 18:45
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Town: chorley
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The Ali floor key is getting just enough air in the tubes to hold a bit of shape but being soft enough to pull them back to get the stringers (with an "R") on.
You may have noticed, I tried fitting one then dropped some air out.
Also, the flatter the surface you are on the better. On the beach can be a real faff if you don't have it all nice and clean.
When I pack up, If car is on the beach, I will drive to the waters edge and rinse them all off. If not, I have an old towel so I can wipe the grooves out before it dries.
On the video, I did rush things a bit and probably didn't get everything perfectly square but even so, I'm normally in the water within 30 minutes or less.
I really took a leap of faith with that pump as I couldn't find any reviews on it, but I read the specs and figured it looked good and it's revolutionised our water activities.
3 paddle boards to 15psi plus the sib was a killer with hand pumps!
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24 June 2021, 18:45
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brinormeg
….(which he says is much faster but unsure if rechargable or 12v).
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24 June 2021, 18:48
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Town: chorley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brinormeg
Maybe 2 of them
PD said he bought the the Sevylor 12v pump that I have coming next week with the sib, but he also bought another HIKS one (which he says is much faster but unsure if rechargable or 12v) and runs them both at once
But to be honest watching the faff of putting in the ali floor was what made me go for the airfloor, although once you are up to it...you'll be fine.
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Well you could get two for the price of a bravo! 😁
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24 June 2021, 18:52
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Town: chorley
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Make: Jago
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Plus transom wheels just added.
Just need good weather this weekend to give it all a good test with the new (to me) 9.9
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24 June 2021, 19:09
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Town: Aberdeenshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wazzajnr
On the beach can be a real faff if you don't have it all nice and clean.
will drive to the waters edge and rinse them all off. If not, I have an old towel so I can wipe the grooves out before it dries.
3 paddle boards to 15psi plus the sib was a killer with hand pumps!
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Not bad going to be honest in 30 min. I will probably take longer and thats with a airfloor
I've bought one of the cordless pressure washers I posted about a while back, with the idea that it will save having to pump the sib back up to wash it at home between trips. Save the salt water in the car a bit as well being able to give everything a wash down.
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24 June 2021, 20:01
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mar 60/20/3.5/Hon2.3
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brinormeg
Maybe 2 of them
PD said he bought the the Sevylor 12v pump that I have coming next week with the sib, but he also bought another HIKS one
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Hey, nowt wrong with the little Sevylor, it’s currently our go to pump even though we have/had mega expensive Bravo/Genova built in battery models. Only single stage piston mode, the little Sevylor kicks out 190 l/m start to finish, so not too shabby and very reliable. No built in battery but able to run direct off our onboard 20ah lithium battery which powers the chart plotter, or run off car accessory socket or stand alone battery. Also run direct off the 12v accessory socket on the rib.
Landing shortly, we have on order a £66 fleaBay special generic HIKS type 20psi dual stage 350/70 l/m just like PD’s. Can’t have too many pumps, with sibs, ribs and sup’s to keep topped up.[emoji106]
Also reckon Wazzajnr’s Force 4 rechargeable jobbie looks the biz. [emoji106]
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25 June 2021, 08:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Boat name: Matchless
Make: Ribcraft 6.8m
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 3.4l 225 V6
MMSI: 232028056
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After seeing Wazz posting about the Force 4 pump I got one for the tender for my RC
Have to say super impressed works very well inflates and deflates and has been rock solid - is 2 stage with automatic cut off and battery seems to last for ages
bravo pump (btp-12)worked 3 times before breaking within the warranty period
Going to contact Scoprega direct as the retailer I bought it from has been a pain
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25 June 2021, 09:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
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Make: Aerotec 380
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>>>bravo pumps are overpriced and under featured
Lots of pumps out there that different folks like. But for the sake of accuracy my Bravo even with the stand alone battery I bought to power away from the car was cheaper than the linked £149 pump and the Bravo has a greater flow rate.
I might be tempted away from Bravo if something did the same job at £60 or under but not at the same or greater price.
They all blow up a SIB at the end of the day but can't have the Bravo dissed unfairly as it's been the first step in many great outings over a 10yr period. For the sake of accuracy on second, first lasted 8yrs of frequent use.
https://www.force4.co.uk/item/Bravo/...-Manometer/E89
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25 June 2021, 09:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
>>>bravo pumps are overpriced and under featured
Lots of pumps out there that different folks like. But for the sake of accuracy my Bravo even with the stand alone battery I bought to power away from the car was cheaper than the linked £149 pump and the Bravo has a greater flow rate.
I might be tempted away from Bravo if something did the same job at £60 or under but not at the same or greater price.
They all blow up a SIB at the end of the day but can't have the Bravo dissed unfairly as it's been the first step in many great outings over a 10yr period. For the sake of accuracy on second, first lasted 8yrs of frequent use.
https://www.force4.co.uk/item/Bravo/...-Manometer/E89
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My bad, I thought the bravo were nearly £200
I did look at a bravo rechargeable one and that was getting close to 300.
Whilst I have nothing against bravo, they were after all the defacto for a long time. I just feel that now, there is better out there.
Apologies for any offence to bravo owners!
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25 June 2021, 10:00
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Town: Cambridgeshire
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Ha ha no offence taken. I know a few have had faults with Bravo pumps like RickW above but also I've known of many where the apparent faults have been self inflicted or operator error.
Really all a pump needs to do is pump and the simplest Bravo as I linked which is sometimes available down to £115 does the job. I agree once you go digital and with integral battery their prices are daft... and some sellers seem to price them as high as they can up in the £300+ range.
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25 June 2021, 10:22
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Town: Kent
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I paid £89.99 delivered for my Bravo BTP12 new off Ebay and the same seller is still offering them for £107 so imo no need to pay daft prices.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373080356602
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25 June 2021, 10:51
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That's a good heads up... a bargain.
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25 June 2021, 11:10
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Town: Cornwall
Boat name: Matchless
Make: Ribcraft 6.8m
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 3.4l 225 V6
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New boat incoming Quicksilver 420 HD + 20HP Mercury
Bought the BTP-12 on Fenlander’s recommendation here and was very happy with it - for three uses. It’s now dead
No criticism of Fenlander implied !
Anyway like the new one until that breaks and hopefully Scoprega will stand me good on the warranty
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