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29 March 2013, 05:04
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Country: USA
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new Futura MK2C-HD
Hello all,
I just bought a new Futura MK2C HD-- the shortest futura at 12'6". the boat takes a short shaft w/ tiller, and is rated to 208 pounds/40HP. I am considering the following power options:
used 50hp Yamaha 2 stroke, 20" shaft with 5" transom jack plate.
Tohatsu 40 TLDI (2 stroke), 15" shaft.
Honda or Tohatsu 30HP four strokes.
My goals are: offshore seakeeping, speed, ability to carry 3 total adults, in that order.
I appreciate the advice of anyone who's powered a SIB this size and weight.
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09 April 2013, 01:59
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Country: USA
Town: Northeast USA
Make: ZODIAC
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no one responded! tossers!
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09 April 2013, 03:06
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Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
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If it is rated for 40 hp why would you consider a 50 hp?
Are you going to trailer it, or break it down every time?
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09 April 2013, 07:52
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
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I used to run a Zodiac MkIIC GT with a Yamaha 25hp, 2 stroke, standard shaft (15"). Good combo for 2-up. Boat used to be dismantled, so hauling 25hp around was on the limit for lifting on and off. If boat is trailered - go for Tohatsu. Remote kit with this engine would be worth considering if you're ever out on your own. Keeping bow down was a pain with tiller steer and one up.
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09 April 2013, 09:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by FUTURA MK2C-HD
no one responded! tossers!
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I suspect no-one responded because no-one's had that combination here.
There's no need to throw your rattle out of the pram.
(FWIW I'd go with a 40hp 2 stroke, and as light as possible but I've never owned a Futura MK2 C HD)
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09 April 2013, 11:30
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Country: Ireland
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Originally Posted by FUTURA MK2C-HD
no one responded! tossers!
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I suspect that the reason no-one responded is because you used a very general title on your thread i.e. the name of your SIB. As it isn't a particularly interesting little boat (we've all seen one before kinda thing) then possibly no-one read your post.
Calling us tossers isn't a good start. I'm assuming NOS let you off with it because his Ballistic is almost ready and the sun is shining. I had another newbie on here last week with the same attitude - a bit of manners wouldn't hurt. I am not in as good a mood as NOS...
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09 April 2013, 12:01
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Country: UK - England
Town: St Helens
Boat name: Wine Down
Make: Maxum
Length: 8m +
Engine: Inboard
Join Date: Apr 2012
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The Yamaha 50hp is an excellent engine, but its a bit much for your boat ( I had a Futura Sport-14'6"- with the same engine and its was very quick and very skittish.)
I would go for the Tohatsu 2 stroke, light, reliable and powerfull.
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09 April 2013, 12:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 225
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
I suspect that the reason no-one responded is because you used a very general title on your thread i.e. the name of your SIB. As it isn't a particularly interesting little boat (we've all seen one before kinda thing) then possibly no-one read your post.
Calling us tossers isn't a good start. I'm assuming NOS let you off with it because his Ballistic is almost ready and the sun is shining. I had another newbie on here last week with the same attitude - a bit of manners wouldn't hurt. I am not in as good a mood as NOS...
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what do you expect from american lawyer.
Yes I know the deformation action is in the post
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09 April 2013, 13:21
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Originally Posted by Starovich
what do you expect from american lawyer.
Yes I know the deformation action is in the post ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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You mean defamation, deformation action is what you get when you're lippy to the brickie down the local pub
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09 April 2013, 15:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 225
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
You mean defamation, deformation action is what you get when you're lippy to the brickie down the local pub
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as an ex bouncer, rugby Forward and black-belt, wasn't me getting deformed, hence the reason i wasn't sure on the wording
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09 April 2013, 18:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
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Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Starovich
as an ex bouncer, rugby Forward and black-belt, wasn't me getting deformed, hence the reason i wasn't sure on the wording ![wink](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Thats 95% of the women up here ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif) and they pi*s standing up
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09 April 2013, 20:02
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Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUTURA MK2C-HD
no one responded! tossers!
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Of the "total" adults, I assume that you are one of them. "Total", that is.
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11 April 2013, 02:01
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Country: USA
Town: Northeast USA
Make: ZODIAC
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I wrote tossers thinking no one would read it. the word doesn't mean anything in the States -- I actually had to look it up to see if I was using it properly. I apologize to everyone who responded. In the USA, the boat is quite rare except behind a Lego firetruck: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C2gw8YcpiC...8/s1600/l1.jpg
The tohatsu TLDI 40 is slightly too heavy for my boat, so I got an Evinrude 30, no battery required, that overall weighs 45 kilos less. This motor is apparently available in short shaft/manual pull because police departments like it. unlike the TLDI, it requires no power to run and no battery to replace every three years and tie down.
It should pull pretty well, but next time I'd buy a MK2 so that I could get a long shaft 40 and not worry about every 40HP motor sold in the US weighing more than the hull rating of the MK2C. where I live, apparently you can be ARRESTED for having a motor on your boat that weighs more than the stated hull rating. Plus, your insurer will not support you if you have some kind of incident, and any injured persons will be suing you into oblivion.
Thanks for the replies
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11 April 2013, 13:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Exeter
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That seems to be a sensible option FUTURA MK2. I would imagine 30hp pushes a 3.2 along quite nicely.
Insurance issues are the same here, but being arrested sounds interesting!
Having worked in the US, I understand how language can be misinterpreted - I was once told "kiss my fanny" by an attractive female colleague. She couldn't understand why I got so excited!
Sounds like you found the meaning of "tosser" the hard way, but its a good move coming back to apologise.
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14 April 2013, 02:30
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Thanks for the reply.
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14 April 2013, 05:56
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I used to run an Achilles 14 with a Honda 40 (max was 50); went well enough except when really heavily loaded with divers. I'm surprised Zodiac has a 12.6 rated for 40.
I believe the insurance part; where is it that law enforcement cares?
jky
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14 April 2013, 15:39
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The 40 rating doesn't do much good in the US - no new 40 weighs under 206lbs, the max weight rating.
the NJ state police could arrest you for "reckless boating" or something along those lines. unlikely, but there is a tv show in USA about boat cops arresting people...
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