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Old 29 March 2013, 06:04   #1
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new Futura MK2C-HD

Hello all,

I just bought a new Futura MK2C HD-- the shortest futura at 12'6". the boat takes a short shaft w/ tiller, and is rated to 208 pounds/40HP. I am considering the following power options:

used 50hp Yamaha 2 stroke, 20" shaft with 5" transom jack plate.

Tohatsu 40 TLDI (2 stroke), 15" shaft.

Honda or Tohatsu 30HP four strokes.

My goals are: offshore seakeeping, speed, ability to carry 3 total adults, in that order.

I appreciate the advice of anyone who's powered a SIB this size and weight.
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Old 09 April 2013, 02:59   #2
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no one responded! tossers!
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Old 09 April 2013, 04:06   #3
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If it is rated for 40 hp why would you consider a 50 hp?

Are you going to trailer it, or break it down every time?
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I used to run a Zodiac MkIIC GT with a Yamaha 25hp, 2 stroke, standard shaft (15"). Good combo for 2-up. Boat used to be dismantled, so hauling 25hp around was on the limit for lifting on and off. If boat is trailered - go for Tohatsu. Remote kit with this engine would be worth considering if you're ever out on your own. Keeping bow down was a pain with tiller steer and one up.
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no one responded! tossers!
I suspect no-one responded because no-one's had that combination here.

There's no need to throw your rattle out of the pram.

(FWIW I'd go with a 40hp 2 stroke, and as light as possible but I've never owned a Futura MK2 C HD)
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no one responded! tossers!
I suspect that the reason no-one responded is because you used a very general title on your thread i.e. the name of your SIB. As it isn't a particularly interesting little boat (we've all seen one before kinda thing) then possibly no-one read your post.

Calling us tossers isn't a good start. I'm assuming NOS let you off with it because his Ballistic is almost ready and the sun is shining. I had another newbie on here last week with the same attitude - a bit of manners wouldn't hurt. I am not in as good a mood as NOS...
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The Yamaha 50hp is an excellent engine, but its a bit much for your boat ( I had a Futura Sport-14'6"- with the same engine and its was very quick and very skittish.)

I would go for the Tohatsu 2 stroke, light, reliable and powerfull.
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I suspect that the reason no-one responded is because you used a very general title on your thread i.e. the name of your SIB. As it isn't a particularly interesting little boat (we've all seen one before kinda thing) then possibly no-one read your post.

Calling us tossers isn't a good start. I'm assuming NOS let you off with it because his Ballistic is almost ready and the sun is shining. I had another newbie on here last week with the same attitude - a bit of manners wouldn't hurt. I am not in as good a mood as NOS...
what do you expect from american lawyer.

Yes I know the deformation action is in the post
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Old 09 April 2013, 14:21   #9
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what do you expect from american lawyer.

Yes I know the deformation action is in the post
You mean defamation, deformation action is what you get when you're lippy to the brickie down the local pub

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You mean defamation, deformation action is what you get when you're lippy to the brickie down the local pub

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as an ex bouncer, rugby Forward and black-belt, wasn't me getting deformed, hence the reason i wasn't sure on the wording
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as an ex bouncer, rugby Forward and black-belt, wasn't me getting deformed, hence the reason i wasn't sure on the wording
Thats 95% of the women up here and they pi*s standing up
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no one responded! tossers!
Of the "total" adults, I assume that you are one of them. "Total", that is.
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Old 11 April 2013, 03:01   #13
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I wrote tossers thinking no one would read it. the word doesn't mean anything in the States -- I actually had to look it up to see if I was using it properly. I apologize to everyone who responded. In the USA, the boat is quite rare except behind a Lego firetruck: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C2gw8YcpiC...8/s1600/l1.jpg

The tohatsu TLDI 40 is slightly too heavy for my boat, so I got an Evinrude 30, no battery required, that overall weighs 45 kilos less. This motor is apparently available in short shaft/manual pull because police departments like it. unlike the TLDI, it requires no power to run and no battery to replace every three years and tie down.

It should pull pretty well, but next time I'd buy a MK2 so that I could get a long shaft 40 and not worry about every 40HP motor sold in the US weighing more than the hull rating of the MK2C. where I live, apparently you can be ARRESTED for having a motor on your boat that weighs more than the stated hull rating. Plus, your insurer will not support you if you have some kind of incident, and any injured persons will be suing you into oblivion.

Thanks for the replies
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That seems to be a sensible option FUTURA MK2. I would imagine 30hp pushes a 3.2 along quite nicely.
Insurance issues are the same here, but being arrested sounds interesting!
Having worked in the US, I understand how language can be misinterpreted - I was once told "kiss my fanny" by an attractive female colleague. She couldn't understand why I got so excited!
Sounds like you found the meaning of "tosser" the hard way, but its a good move coming back to apologise.
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Thanks for the reply.
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I used to run an Achilles 14 with a Honda 40 (max was 50); went well enough except when really heavily loaded with divers. I'm surprised Zodiac has a 12.6 rated for 40.

I believe the insurance part; where is it that law enforcement cares?

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Old 14 April 2013, 16:39   #17
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The 40 rating doesn't do much good in the US - no new 40 weighs under 206lbs, the max weight rating.

the NJ state police could arrest you for "reckless boating" or something along those lines. unlikely, but there is a tv show in USA about boat cops arresting people...
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