New Honwave t38-ie3

Steve509926 · 26 October 2020, 21:07

Has anyone been tempted to pre order the new Honwave T38-ie3?

Looks good and the specs read well, but I'm not sure about the oars being situated on the inside of the tubes, think I'd trip over them!
It'll be interesting to see if it earns the same following as the previous T38.

pumpkinking · 26 October 2020, 21:41

Looks good for the weight doesn’t it...

You’ve only had yours a few months, can’t be thinking of upgrading already, Steve?! [emoji6]

Doesn’t blow mind mind when comparing to its predecessor though... unless I’m missing something?

smallribber · 26 October 2020, 22:39

Don't look much different but then I suppose it would not

Steve509926 · 26 October 2020, 22:57

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Originally Posted by pumpkinking

Looks good for the weight doesn’t it...

You’ve only had yours a few months, can’t be thinking of upgrading already, Steve?! [emoji6]

Doesn’t blow mind mind when comparing to its predecessor though... unless I’m missing something?

Weights impressive for the size and its lost those big flotation tabs from the transom. Still has a "V" shaped deck tho, which was what put me off it, need a flat deck for the dog!
No not thinking of changing for a good few years, and when I am perhaps there will be an Excel Volaire 360

Be interesting to read the first few reviews.

Fenlander · 27 October 2020, 00:07

Interesting... thanks for the heads up... I'd not noticed it before. A few thoughts...

Is it a trick of the image or have they tapered the overall width more throughout ther length towards the bow than the old model.

Quite like the colour scheme change. Good to lose the transom floor flaps.

Not sure about junking the all round grab rope in favour of the four grab straps per side.

The oar stowage position would suit me. The early Aerotec had the paddles there and it's my preferred position.

It's lost the lift handles towards the bow... retrograde step.

Gained an anchor rope guide.

Steve509926 · 27 October 2020, 00:20

Like you Mr F, I thought it looked more tapered towards the bow. You can't tell off the specs as it the overall width at the widest point that's given. I also thought that the grab handles may be a bit uncomfortable for anyone sitting on the tubes.
Hadn't noticed the anchor rope guide, good addition. That's one of the projects I intend to do with my SD360 when I can find a guide with a small enough back plate to bond onto the bow.

Steve509926 · 27 October 2020, 00:32

I've just compared the specs between the ie2 & the ie3 (as per Seamark website) and they are exactly the same!! I'm very doubtful that they can be, and perhaps someone has jumped the gun.

smallribber · 27 October 2020, 07:32

I know Seamark well and I suspect it is a copy and paste error.

I think loosing the trim tabs is a good thing. Loosing the all round rope is a very bad thing,

Loosing front handles is a very bad thing, No where to fit bow dodger easily.

Don't like the low position of the oars. If you need them in a hurry slow to get out especially if you have lots of stuff on board

Anchor guide OK but I hardly ever use one and if you wanted one quite easy to fit.

From what I see on balance it is a retrograde step

Oldman2 · 27 October 2020, 08:12

Didnt the all round rope ferrules rot easy and fall away?
Also the spec said GRP transom is that grp over ply or all grp? What was it spec'd before.
The oars position does seem a bit low to get to easy, the Elling has them mid way up the bigger 50cm tube which is easy to get to with kit on board.

warder54 · 27 October 2020, 22:36

Losing the trim tabs is great for new owners that want cheaper, useable transom wheels. I found the grab rope very coarse when holding on for extended periods in less than ideal conditions. I'd also prefer the oars in the new position, I found them to be in the way and easy to snag line on when fishing.

Steve509926 · 27 October 2020, 23:08

I've never had or even been in a Honwave t38, but I'm presuming the trim tabs helped keep the stern higher in the water with a heavier OB. I wonder if they have beefed up the tubes at the rear to compensate.

essex · 28 October 2020, 22:47

I would prefer the oars on the outside. It looks like the new T32 has the option to put the bench seat in a forward or rear position

smallribber · 29 October 2020, 22:38

Quite frankly for the money you pay you should get 2 bench seats

Steve509926 · 29 October 2020, 23:13

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Originally Posted by smallribber

Quite frankly for the money you pay you should get 2 bench seats

I fully agree with you SR

Fenlander · 29 October 2020, 23:22

>>> for the money you pay you should get 2 bench seats

Perhaps with a £3k+ Zodiac but I've always thought of the Honwaves as really cheap??

Steve509926 · 29 October 2020, 23:29

A lot of cheaper SIBs (cost not quality) supply 2 bench seats, Excel for one.

Steve509926 · 29 October 2020, 23:34

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Originally Posted by Fenlander

>>> for the money you pay you should get 2 bench seats
I've always thought of the Honwaves as really cheap??

I do agree that Honwave and others are really cheap though, or should I say excellent value for money

smallribber · 30 October 2020, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Steve509926

A lot of cheaper SIBs (cost not quality) supply 2 bench seats, Excel for one.

They do indeed I bought a very good 3.2 m ali floor for about £450 this year and it had 2 seats

Steve509926 · 30 October 2020, 21:12

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Originally Posted by smallribber

They do indeed I bought a very good 3.2 m ali floor for about £450 this year and it had 2 seats

Surely that was "used", so it can hardly count!

smallribber · 30 October 2020, 23:11

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Originally Posted by Steve509926

Surely that was "used", so it can hardly count!

No it was brand new and it was actuallr £425.

I started a thread here and some pics also

https://www.rib.net/forum/f50/very-a...sib-84050.html