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02 October 2016, 17:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Ade if you look on Barnett marine site they have a full range I bought the Heavy duty set and very pleased with them.
Cheers
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02 October 2016, 17:25
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,994
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Ade I would buy better as you are supporting a very nice 20hp!
If you want fold up types that stay on the transom while under way probably the best are the Trem HD with the lower locating lugs that give extra support.
They are the ones shown fitted to my SIB in post #23 on this thread...
http://www.rib.net/forum/f50/trem-hd...tec-69303.html
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02 October 2016, 18:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
Make: Honwave 3.5AE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu Outboard
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,176
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+1 for the Trem / Honwave with the lug. Expensive but worth every penny especially over rough ground.
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18 October 2016, 21:55
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Point Blank,TX
Boat name: Just Blown
Make: Achilles 2 of them
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 8&15hp Nissan 15
Join Date: Oct 2015
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The danard wheels look the most impressive to me.
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22 October 2016, 21:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dudley
Boat name: Volante SD360
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20SA Efi
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 26
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Guys, these Trem wheels are on offer on gael force
Trem Launching Wheels | Gael Force Marine
My Excel Volante 360SD is 55kg and the Engine 44kg.
So I'm assuming the 100kg set will be fine but what about the length?
560mm or 760mm
Ta
Ade
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23 October 2016, 12:00
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Stirling
Boat name: The Gurnard
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 4m +
Engine: mariner 25hp 2s
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,671
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Hi Adey.. I dont use transom wheels so only guessing.. but I think I would go for the heavier set. I had them at one time and they worked ok.
You mention your SIB and engine weigh 100 kg.. but unless you want to carry your fuel..anchor and other gear separately..that weight could easily add another 30kg to your expected weight. Boats also tend to have some water in them on landing..so perhaps add some more weight there too ?
Perhaps 100kg wheels will still support that lot ..but at that price..I would want to make sure.
Just a thought...
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25 October 2016, 09:09
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,994
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Agree with Gurnard. If you set your SIB up as you might have it on the water then you will find it too bow heavy for comfort when moving on its wheels. In our case with a 44kg engine and 45kg boat we put the fuel tank, anchor bag and all the kit right at the transom while we wheel it to the water so probably exceed a safe load for 100kg wheels given the forces applied to the legs when in soft ground or over potholes.
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06 November 2016, 18:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dudley
Boat name: Volante SD360
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20SA Efi
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 26
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Well I'm glad I didn't have the money to buy the wheels a while back.
The heavy duty set have just been reduced to £134.99 inc delivery!
So I've now ordered them
Ade
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09 November 2016, 22:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dudley
Boat name: Volante SD360
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20SA Efi
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 26
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The wheels arrived today. I didn't expect that they'd be double wheels!
They look extremely well made and very strong.
I'm just stressing a bit now, hoping that they'll fit ok and give enough room for the engine to move freely.
I'm going to inflate the boat this weekend, mount the engine and then check them for size.
Ade
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10 November 2016, 00:07
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,994
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That's weird... never seen any like those before. They must be quite heavy and may well get in the way of the outboard turning when flipped up. They will also have too much flotation to easily operate.
I'd want to swap them for the normal HD ones.
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12 November 2016, 17:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dudley
Boat name: Volante SD360
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20SA Efi
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 26
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Well as you can see, no way are those wheels going to fit.
In fact, I can't see any transom wheels fitting.
Not every boat has the extra material at the back.
I assume it's to minimise the splash into the boat.
Any ideas? Might end up getting a small collapsible trailer
Ade
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12 November 2016, 17:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mar 60/20/3.5/Hon2.3
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,130
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Opinions please (SIB wheels)
Adey,
Looking good buddy, that's a real smart motor you've got there. 👍
Don't take this the wrong way but engine looks a little low in the photos, although appreciate difficult to tell - best performance usually attained with AV plate either level or max 25mm below transom at keel.
Sorry you're having probs with wheels, they are a real pain on lots of boats. Have you considered Beachmasters from NZ, not cheap but pretty impressive and mega compact.
http://www.beachmaster.co.nz/
If you've got room to transport and fancy a launch trolley as an alternative I've got one of these kicking around;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150420217391
you can have it for £50 collected if of any use.
Cheers Ian
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12 November 2016, 18:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,532
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You can replace the bolts with drop nose pins so the wheels are quick release to save interfering with the webs and engine or swap out for ones that fit.
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13 November 2016, 08:03
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Povoa S Iria Lisbon Port
Boat name: Açores
Make: Ocean Bay
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki 15 hp
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 69
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Hello,
I have problems also with the space to turn the motor, so I put them in the the most possible near the tubes, it works fine an they are very strong,,, boat, motor plus gear,, +/- 200 kg...
a picture,,, the local is an online store in Spain, Accesorio Nautico > Productos de Accesorios Nautico - Tienda n?utica online
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01 December 2016, 11:13
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Posts: 291
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Hi
I also ordered these wheels and received the type with 2 wheels on each leg
I contacted gael marine to see why the wheels i recieved were not as advertised and they told me this :
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'The wheels that you actually have are also Trem and are model number, Trems model number is 0 08 04 080.
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These wheels are also more expensive but on this occasion as the fault lies with us we would not charge you any extra on this occasion.* Alternatively if they are not suitable then we would of course refund your returns postage'
*I'll probably just fit them but i'm not looking forward trying to get them submerged when landing!
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01 December 2016, 14:51
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,994
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>>>*I'll probably just fit them but i'm not looking forward trying to get them submerged when landing!
Indeed... they will be very hard to get down in the water!
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01 December 2016, 21:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Make: Ranieri 15
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF50
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,281
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adey
Well as you can see, no way are those wheels going to fit.
In fact, I can't see any transom wheels fitting.
Not every boat has the extra material at the back.
I assume it's to minimise the splash into the boat.
Any ideas? Might end up getting a small collapsible trailer
Ade
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Yes nice looking boat and engine there.
Why didn't you just get the wheels sold by Terry at Excel? Guaranteed to work I've yet to fit mine I'll have some pics soon.
P.S. maybe it's possible to cut the second wheel off? Careful planning needed.
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01 December 2016, 23:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dudley
Boat name: Volante SD360
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20SA Efi
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 26
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I've had a refund now.
I'm getting a small 'hand pull' style trailer from forum member Ian.
I'll see how I get in with that before considering transom wheels again.
Ade
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02 December 2016, 08:17
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 291
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I know fenlander, I find one wheel enough of a pain. On the plus side it will be good for spreading the weight on soft sand.
Can't actually find these double wheels for sale anywhere, bit strange.
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