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23 June 2013, 21:54
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Replace them if they're out of date. I tried to set off 2 red hand flares and 2 orange smoke flares last year in the garden during bonfire night. All 4 failed. No use in an emergency when your life or someone else's depends on it.
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23 June 2013, 22:00
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Replace them if they're out of date. I tried to set off 2 red hand flares and 2 orange smoke flares last year in the garden during bonfire night. All 4 failed. No use in an emergency when your life or someone else's depends on it.
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Outta curiosity, how long out of date were they?
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23 June 2013, 22:08
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Outta curiosity, how long out of date were they?
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Don't think 5 years like yours
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23 June 2013, 22:20
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Don't think 5 years like yours
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Cheeky imp! I think they expired 31/12/11, FYI.
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23 June 2013, 22:28
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Cheeky imp! I think they expired 31/12/11, FYI.
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must be mine then
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23 June 2013, 22:33
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must be mine then
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Thought you'd used all yours that tim....mmmpfh
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23 June 2013, 23:34
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Outta curiosity, how long out of date were they?
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Couple of years if I remember.
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23 June 2013, 23:39
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Couple of years if I remember.
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OK, longer stick for mine then!
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24 June 2013, 08:18
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What would you rather carry in your car to be disposed properly !! A complete intact flare thats out of date or going out of date, or a flare you activated and it failed ?
Is it honestly worth it.
The usual IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO ME syndrome
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24 June 2013, 09:13
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... never understood why bottled water has a use by date.
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... Patently, so long as it's sterile, it should last for ever.
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It is certainly not sterile to start with though.
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I think that is the primary reason for expiry dates on bottled water, which makes me wonder why people would pay such a premium for the stuff which has more toxicity than than most tap water.
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No, plastic leachate is the least of the problems - food grade plastics really shouldn't be leaching much into pure water at room/fridge temp. Bacteria are the problem - and as well as some bacteria having health issues others will lead to bad taste.
If you think bottled water is bad - you should see what's growing in most office water coolers.
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How has Poly not been along with a thesis for this one??! Perhaps he's still writing it...?
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I missed the thread - I assumed from the title that we were discussing "out of date flares" (for clarification: time expired pyrotechnics - rather than Willk's wardrobe issues) - which seemed logical as it must be at least six months since the topic was last discussed. Indeed, if you like, the old threads were "out of date".
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That's quite funny - but not for the reasons you think
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I suspect SS and yourself may be on the same wavelength - which is a disturbing thought!
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24 June 2013, 09:17
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All in the world is right now. Poly's had his rant.
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25 June 2013, 08:51
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Found this in my old (2nd rev. 1991) Day Skipper course notes book. Be interesting to see what is in their current publications:
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25 June 2013, 13:24
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My OOD flares onboard expired in May of this year. That was 3 weeks ago. Did they undergo substantial change in that 3 week period? Perhaps I should have tossed them before midnight, May 31.
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A neighbour of mine had a very similar dilemma a few weeks ago with a slab of Strongbow* he'd stashed away and forgotten about. He discovered his little hidden treasure trove on Friday 31st May, which coincidentally, was it's 'Use by' date. After putting in a good shift, we managed to dispose of it before pumpkin o'clock. Twas a close run thing, mind.
*Proper 'old skool' electric lemonade it was too: 5.3% ABV , not the 4.8% stuff you get nowadays.
#stopwateringdownmyshant
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25 June 2013, 13:46
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*Proper 'old skool' electric lemonade it was too: 5.3% ABV , not the 4.8% stuff you get nowadays.
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Arrrr - you'll come round to my way of thinking yet.
I did the rounds of the "orchard" yesterday - counting my apples before they've ripened, so to speak. A bit of work but you can dial in any ABV you want and there's no sell by date to worry about
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After putting in a good shift, we managed to dispose of it before pumpkin o'clock. Twas a close run thing, mind.
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Close call. Good work!
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25 June 2013, 23:25
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Yup (and this is not an Official RIBnet Endorsement folks), I have a few TEP about the place that are going to get an airing on 31 October this year. The entire countryside will be alight with completely illegal fireworks (no legal fireworks in Ireland Sud) and I figure they'll not spot a few Reds and Smokes. Taped to a pole I think, for extra safety...
Note to self: Keep cats indoors.
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Can I come to the party?
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25 June 2013, 23:31
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Can I come to the party?
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It's not like you'll have any trouble finding it!
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25 June 2013, 23:42
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Talking of expiry dates I've still got an unopened bottle of Orangina bought on the old second year cross channel day trip to France, that would make it about 1979.
Probably more dangerous than one of the OP's dodgy flares...which is probably what we were wearing in '79...
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26 June 2013, 00:35
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Arrrr - you'll come round to my way of thinking yet.
I did the rounds of the "orchard" yesterday - counting my apples before they've ripened, so to speak. A bit of work but you can dial in any ABV you want and there's no sell by date to worry about
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Never thought we were in dispute!
Look after those precious little bundles - make sure your gran doesn't have any silly plans to turn them into pies, chutney and other such nonsense.
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26 June 2013, 00:39
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Talking of expiry dates I've still got an unopened bottle of Orangina bought on the old second year cross channel day trip to France, that would make it about 1979.
Probably more dangerous than one of the OP's dodgy flares...which is probably what we were wearing in '79...
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We found an unopened flaggon of Buckleys Brown Ale in my old man's shed a few decades ago - the wisdom within the family at the time reckoned its vintage was 1968(ish). I think it's still in there.
This is getting like the 'Who's got the oldest Searider?' thread.
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