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06 December 2012, 10:34
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Planeing
What will plane easiest airfloor or boards and inflatable keel?
Im looking to get a 270 planeing with the smallest outboard possible
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06 December 2012, 15:08
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To plane a sib will depend on many factors you must have right in order to do so. Air floor sibs do have inflatable keel under air floor, same as with alum or wooden panel floors. Is it possible to go tad larger, a 270 is a very small toy, would suggest 3.0 mtr upwards. Which engine do you have for the sib ?
Happy Boating
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06 December 2012, 17:11
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Originally Posted by Locozodiac
To plane a sib will depend on many factors you must have right in order to do so. Air floor sibs do have inflatable keel under air floor, same as with alum or wooden panel floors. Is it possible to go tad larger, a 270 is a very small toy, would suggest 3.0 mtr upwards. Which engine do you have for the sib ?
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No i dont want to go any bigger i already have a 3.8 honwave and a 25 yam so this one is for quick afterwork sessions on my own so weight if the main factor ive got a 4 hp yam 2 smoke for this one
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06 December 2012, 18:02
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When i say air floor i mean v air floor by the way as opposed to flat and an inflatable keel
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06 December 2012, 20:07
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I would always put my money on a rigid floor with an inflatable keel as opposed to an air-floor with keel.
Rigid floor can be wood or aluminium in sections secured by stringers or bars held within the sponsons that set rigid once held in place by inflation of sponsons.
Any element of rigidity will improve stability and planing potential. The weight consideration amounts to nothing.
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06 December 2012, 20:24
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The only issue about the weight is me haveing to lift it on to the roofrack on my own i thought it may plane easier because of the inflatable floor makeing itt more bouyent
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06 December 2012, 20:45
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The weight isn't an issue, the weight is negligible, really......when all is accounted for you don't notice the weight.......you can always remove the wood floor before you lift it onto your rack. Never had an issue with my 3m Zodiac.
Anyway, if too heavy to deadlift you lean it, lever it and slide/push it on. There's always a way.
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06 December 2012, 21:57
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No matter what you buy, V inflatable keel, air deck, alum or wooden panel floors sibs your 4 HP horse is too poor to plane anything small. A 2.70 mt sib has excessive hull drag that's easily overcome by a larger engine which you don't have at the moment.
Is it possible to test a V air floor or whatever floor you like in that size along your 4 HP and check if performance satisfies you before buying it ? A 2.70 mtr with 4 HP is excellent for flirting around.
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06 December 2012, 22:02
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06 December 2012, 22:03
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A Honda 2.7 'V' air floor will just about plane with a 4hp 2 stoke and 1 adult on board, but you will need a tiller extension to get far enough forward.
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06 December 2012, 22:06
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you don't need a tiller extension in a 2.7
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06 December 2012, 23:07
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you don't need a tiller extension in a 2.7
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Yes, you most certainly do. It will be one of the best £20 you will spend on the setup, I have a telescopic 600mm version on my 2.7m SIB and I have to say it is invaluable - in sooo many ways.
Make sure that it is securely attached...
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06 December 2012, 23:15
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Disagree, reach and lean forward.
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06 December 2012, 23:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mister p
Disagree, reach and lean forward.
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Fair enough if it works for you mate. I need an extension...
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06 December 2012, 23:22
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I replied before reading your reply dude.
Really, a 3 m sib is not that big, and needs maneouverability.
So there
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06 December 2012, 23:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Fair enough if it works for you mate. I need an extension...
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No non non no, no no, no no
Mister, no,
take the lighter side,
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06 December 2012, 23:34
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no more extensions.
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06 December 2012, 23:38
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*hic*?
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06 December 2012, 23:41
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Seriously, no more extensions.
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06 December 2012, 23:43
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sleep
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