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05 March 2016, 15:08
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Questions about brand new aerotec
Hi I've just received my new aerotec and wanted to make sure the floor is correctly fitted?
Also there are some small marks on the tubes, is this just where it's been folded? Is it normal?
Don't want to be pedantic but don't want reduced life span either
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05 March 2016, 15:11
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And how do I attach pictures?
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05 March 2016, 15:16
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For images scroll down to "Go Advanced" and browse for them on the PC to attach.
Have you fully inflated for a few hours to take out the packing crinkles... they should stretch out to invisible.
What worries you about the floor? Mine didn't fit by a mile from new and was replaced FOC. Others have had minor fit issues which have resolved after a few uses and it all stretched/bedded in.
It's a premium SIB at a premium price... it should be perfect!
BTW what are the last few digits of the transom serial number... it will tell you when built.
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05 March 2016, 15:37
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,ost look like packing crinkles but this almost looks like a ding and it's a bit dirty around it (could that be glue)
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05 March 2016, 15:44
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Originally Posted by SeanKent
,ost look like packing crinkles but this almost looks like a ding and it's a bit dirty around it (could that be glue)
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Inflate the boat to 240 millibar, leave it inflated, and they'll go away in a few days.
It's a fabric crease from packing...pretty much all inflatable boats will have a few. It doesn't affect the function of the craft and should not cause any problems.
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05 March 2016, 15:47
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The vertical mark looks like a packing crinkle but viewed full screen on a large monitor the bit in the middle could be a small scuff.
Any info on the other things I asked?
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05 March 2016, 15:49
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you'll see what I mean in the first couple of pictures, on the ding. the floor sits half way up the tubes, i always assumed it would be under them, I can put my arm between the airfloor and the material that is beneath it. Some of the ,arks just look like packing crinkles (like the picture between the ones of the floor) but theres one that doesn't (first couple of picts) appreciate your input
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05 March 2016, 15:52
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The tubes are underinflated.
Inflate them more, then deflate and reinflate the floor...or just stand on the edges of the airfloor, and they'll pop down in to the joint between the floor fabric and tube.
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05 March 2016, 15:55
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I can see the tubes aren't fully inflated so I'd do that and leave it overnight before judging the crinkles which should be all gone.
Re the floor on the face of it seems to have the same problem as the one I returned for swap... but...
You can't fully judge until you have the tubes and floor to full pressure and support the bow/tube ends so the floor isn't being pushed up by resting on the ground.
As Richard says above the floor edges would ideally pop into the interface between tube and outer floor skin... however it does seem over the years the floor has become thicker and they are being made with the floor "V" rather more narrow so there is a tendancy for the floor to fail to pop down and purely be restrained by the straps which isn't ideal from a "mechanical forces" aspect.
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05 March 2016, 17:34
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Last few digits are j516.
I've pumped it right up (deflated first) and tried to push the floor into place. Still not there though
There is a big gap at the front of the boat (6inches) where the air floor doesn't reach the front of the boat.
Haven't tried standing on the floor yet.
There are definitely a couple of small cracks in the material and it is darker around them as if it's been glued and dirt has stuck to the glue
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05 March 2016, 18:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
The vertical mark looks like a packing crinkle but viewed full screen on a large monitor the bit in the middle could be a small scuff.
Any info on the other things I asked?
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Do you think I should worry about the scuff?
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05 March 2016, 19:40
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The floor not reaching the bow by a few inches is correct. As I said earlier the floor being new will only push in place with the boat tubes supported. You will know if there is a real problem with the floor if it is all inflated to pressure, the tubes are supported and you are still unable to push it into the tube/outer floor interface.
A clue to watch for is the floor edges refusing to push into place as the floor joining flap is drum tight and effectively holding the floor in too narrow a "V" to ever fit nicely.
BTW the serial number code is correct for an Oct '15 build 2016 model boat.
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05 March 2016, 21:19
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Questions about brand new aerotec
Here are a few pics of mine when new as I also had reservations on floor fitment! Has got slightly better with use but the central 'V' hinge on mine is still drum tight and inhibits the floor edges tucking under tubes without help from the straps - not ideal for longevity. Mine seems to work OK out on the water but still can't shake that niggling feeling floor is not quite right.....especially as Fenlander subsequently had his floor replaced! As mentioned by others this is a premium priced product so so everything should be a perfect fit.
I can sympathise with your concerns but looking at your pics the central hinge isn't stretched tight so scope yet for floor to pop under tubes. Gap at bow is normal and hopefully marks on pvc will dissipate.
Hope you enjoy your new boat they are awesome out on the water. 👍
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05 March 2016, 22:47
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Chipko's pics show where the floor should sit. Once *everything* is *fully* inflated to pressure and checked with a decent manometer (again essential to use one) You must walk round the edge of the floor and push it down or lightly jump and it will pop down into the correct place with a farty noise. :thumb:
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05 March 2016, 23:02
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Ive just looked over a folder full of BtAT pics I've collected over the years and in all the floor sits like Chipkos (and mine) with just the thinnest bit, a few mm's of the black tube seam tape showing above the floor sides.
[edit, can't get the poxy pic link to work] click below.
http://www.rib.net/forum/f50/bombard...tml#post683786
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05 March 2016, 23:07
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Thanks guys will probably have another play with the floor tomorrow
The scuff is worrying me more though, I do think it's had some glue on it which is making me wonder how bad it was and whether it'll always be a weak spot. That said I don't want to be an unnecessary pain to the dealer and intend to use the boat alot so it will get marks etc I guess.
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05 March 2016, 23:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max...
Chipko's pics show where the floor should sit. Once *everything* is *fully* inflated to pressure and checked with a decent manometer (again essential to use one) You must walk round the edge of the floor and push it down or lightly jump and it will pop down into the correct place with a farty noise. :thumb:
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I only have the one that came with it, think it's a Bravo, is this good enough? I bought a Bravo BST battery operated pump (what a change from the foot pump I had with my old zodiac) used this when everyone had said it wasn't up to pressure. Guess it's best to check even when I've set the pressure on this?
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05 March 2016, 23:34
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The Bravo has many fans on here. I've never owned one so cannot comment on the accuracy of the built in gauge or cut out but in general built in gauges are rarely as accurate as a proper separate instrument. Make one for a fiver:
http://www.rib.net/forum/f50/adaptin...sib-42375.html
This will enable you to check pressure very accurately at any time, the last 0.5 psi makes all the difference in a SIB.
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06 March 2016, 07:49
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Seankent. Can i ask where you got it from as i bought a new one and i took it back as the folded section had delaminated and was damaged.
Cheers
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06 March 2016, 10:56
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Seankent. Can i ask where you got it from as i bought a new one and i took it back as the folded section had delaminated and was damaged.
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Pennine Marine, is this where you bought yours ? was this recently ?
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