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14 September 2018, 07:32
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Road Trailer you can dismantle
I have been grappling with the issue of how to take a SIB and our caravan away on holidays and then how to use the Sib once there with the minimum of hastle.
My thoughts are to build a road trailer that can be dismantled and transported in the Caravan.
The plan is one of these
With a square galvanised draw bar, Hitch, Small jocky wheel and wheels and mud guards with a light board.
This would be for a sib and engine weighing no more than 150 KG all up.
The centre draw bar would detatch from the axel and wheels and bolt together at the intersection point possibly with a couple of stays.
I have a very similar trailer that came with my 3.4 m rib that is welded
Not too interested in all the legal stuff as I can work through that. More interested in peoples practical comments.
Dennis
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14 September 2018, 08:35
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Do you really need mudgards and light board?
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"Ribbing-the most expensive way of travelling third class"
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14 September 2018, 08:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian
Do you really need mudgards and light board?
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If you are going on the road yes
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14 September 2018, 08:47
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Originally Posted by Bigplumbs
If you are going on the road yes
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I guess Brian’s point is how far are you going on the road? Most people who have discussed this in the past (I can recall two on here and have met another f2f) are planning to launch at the caravan site or a public slip so close they may not bother with a light board.
However I’d ask a more fundamental question - if a roller trailer is really the best idea for a sib. Supporting all the weight on a tiny area and dragging any stones trapped in the roller across the surface...
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14 September 2018, 08:55
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Originally Posted by Poly
I guess Brian’s point is how far are you going on the road? Most people who have discussed this in the past (I can recall two on here and have met another f2f) are planning to launch at the caravan site or a public slip so close they may not bother with a light board.
However I’d ask a more fundamental question - if a roller trailer is really the best idea for a sib. Supporting all the weight on a tiny area and dragging any stones trapped in the roller across the surface...
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It would be lift on lift off arrangement sib to trailer. The idea is to travel the distance from home to campsite with sib folded in car boot and trailer dismantled in caravan.
Then Assemble trailer and blow up sib at camp site and put on trailer to travel by road to sibbing spots leaving the caravan where it is at camp site.
I want to be able to take a small trailer and Caravan to a holiday destination with one tow car but not pump up sib each time at each place
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14 September 2018, 09:18
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I would have thought the hassle of transporting and assembling a road legal trailer added to its extra faff at the slipway and need to find somewhere to park it might outweigh any faff of doing a daily inflate with 12V pump... if you had an air floor!
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14 September 2018, 09:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
I would have thought the hassle of transporting and assembling a road legal trailer added to its extra faff at the slipway and need to find somewhere to park it might outweigh any faff of doing a daily inflate with 12V pump... if you had an air floor!
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Might be true but still want to investigate if others have done it.
Is an air floor loads quicker/less faff to set up than an ali floor
Dennis
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14 September 2018, 09:31
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Fenlander
Looking at this video. I think you might be correct.
Anyone know what the make that cool box is
Soon of to boatshow in the caravan and a trip up the Hamble in the Sib. I have 99 % decided to buy the t38IE to add to the fleet
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14 September 2018, 09:46
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The air floor daily inflate is chalk and cheese with an alloy floor. Even when you have the knack an uneven setting up surface or just how it goes on the day can make getting the floor sections and side stringers a right pain.
But just rolling the air floor from its bag and letting the pump do its work while you do other things is so easy in comparison. And the air floor will be about 60lbs lighter which makes a big difference moving it about.
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14 September 2018, 09:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
The air floor daily inflate is chalk and cheese with an alloy floor. Even when you have the knack an uneven setting up surface or just how it goes on the day can make getting the floor sections and side stringers a right pain.
But just rolling the air floor from its bag and letting the pump do its work while you do other things is so easy in comparison. And the air floor will be about 60lbs lighter which makes a big difference moving it about.
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You have me convinced. Just got to stand and gaze at them at the boat show for a while and then will most likely buy from that small guy near you £970 ish if I remember rightly. Havnt found any one else to match his price so he deserves the business in my book.
Dennis
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14 September 2018, 10:02
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Re. coolbox it's a Coleman Extreme... you'd have to check dimensions inside tubes to know which capacity model it was but one of this range... https://www.alternate.co.uk/Coleman/...roduct/1355787
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14 September 2018, 11:58
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A folding road legal boat trailer is a sizeable thing and floating around in a caravan not ideal have you thought of a side mounting roof rack and stick the boat on there for short journeys
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14 September 2018, 12:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
A folding road legal boat trailer is a sizeable thing and floating around in a caravan not ideal have you thought of a side mounting roof rack and stick the boat on there for short journeys
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Iirc the “load” capacity of most caravans is surprisingly small. I’d not be surprised if boat, engine and trailer were enough to hit the weight limit before you’ve put and clothes, water etc in!
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14 September 2018, 12:41
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i think you're right poly not a lot of scope left after all the caravan kit.
this sort of thing might be an option
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14 September 2018, 13:21
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All of that is over the top and way more than I am going to spend.
I am thinking Axel with wheels. and draw bar from 50 x 50 box section with Hitch and small Jocky wheel. The axel and wheels come off like a dumbbell and the draw bar is bolted to the axel. Maybe mud guards, with the light board on the transom.
Please don't plonk on about the legality. I know about that and we have heard all of that so many times. If it needs to be legal I will make it so
This thing will take no more than 150 kg in weight
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14 September 2018, 13:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
A folding road legal boat trailer is a sizeable thing and floating around in a caravan not ideal have you thought of a side mounting roof rack and stick the boat on there for short journeys
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Don't want foldable I just want one that comes apart. Most small trailers are delivered in a box and you put them together.
It is to take a Honwave T380 IE
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14 September 2018, 13:34
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14 September 2018, 15:50
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Just in the process of finishing one off, it weighs 60kg with the bunks fitted, it takes about 15mins to assemble, this is a photo of the basic trailer I will get some up to date ones showing the bunks and the brackets I have used to make it easy.
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14 September 2018, 15:52
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better when you attach the photos
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14 September 2018, 16:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by knube1
better when you attach the photos
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Now that is just the sort of thing I am talking about.
You can be sure that some keyboard warrior and paper pusher will be along soon to say why it is illegal and the world will end if you ever take it on the road. Your insurance will be invalid and you are being irresponsible actually making something that is solid and good yourself.... Plates are available on ebay by the way
To me it looks like just the solution I was thinking about.
Where did you source the components
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